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Attention all eBay sellers: eBay started dodge automatic payment method joining with Paypal.

mechwarrior7 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:43:14 GMT

Attention all eBay sellers: eBay started dodge automatic payment method joining with Paypal. In the begining it will ask you to join your Paypal Account with ebay. Never Do that. Never link your ebay account with paypal + They will chrge you when ever they want. It happened to me. When we make the listing it will say clearly "NO FEESS" (You can also seee it) But they will charge you indirectly. post the adver I advertised 2 items worth around $30 and end up paying around $8 without even selling it...... We should stand against those kind of false advertising hogs which are done by well reputed companies berfore other follow their direction... Stand up against!

Attention all eBay sellers: eBay started dodge automatic payment method joining with Paypal

mechwarrior7 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:42:09 GMT

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fetzerveeble — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:44:37 GMT

Hello

Not too sure what you're saying as it seems like one big paragraph with little or no grammer.

Could you tidy it up please.

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lyndal1838 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:50:46 GMT

If you don't link your paypal and ebay accounts you will not be able to accept payments as a seller.

Other than that I am not going to touch this one.

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digital*ghost — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:08:34 GMT

All sellers are now required to have an automatic payment method on file so that eBay gets some form of assurance that the fees will be paid - if it's not PayPal, it's a credit or debit card.

'No fees' generally only refers to the insertion fee, while other fees are still fully applicable (eg final value fee, charged on the sale value, including postage where applicable, plus any additional features like a second category, or a subtitle).

That being said, I've had a look at your completed listings and can't seem to see anything that would have incurred a fee. I suggest you take a look at the fee details (in My eBay > Account there should be a link to view exactly what the fees were for), and contact eBay if the charges have been applied incorrectly.

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cherry*135 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:17:09 GMT

I pay my ebay fees by Paypal, it is set to pay them automatically. I usually pay them before the due date.

The ebay invoice is available to read before the payment is due. Therefore, you can check what has been charged, and if not satisfied with it, query it with eBay before payment is due.

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ajarnjenny — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:35:53 GMT

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

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5kazam — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:44:45 GMT

So why did you give a kudo?

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2011.narelle — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:09:25 GMT

You mean with your bank account for automatic payments for refunds to buyers? I saw something like that with my buying account yesterday that i don't remember doing with this selling account.

Starting this month,the U.S has the No Hassles Refund system where eBay refunds after sending the buyer a postage label to post the item back to the seller,then they bill the seller for return postage at eBay rates.

With every U.S listing except for car sales,there is the eBay banner on the listing with something about money back guarantee & you have no choice even if your listing states no refunds.

Yes that is the U.S but we will probably get it next & PayPal probably want access to bank accounts to refund buyers if the seller transfers the $ out of their PayPal account.

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2011.narelle — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:13:32 GMT

It had a new thing on my buying account that wanted credit card type of card,wanted my valid dated & the verification number on the back of the card.I didn't think this was right,so I just got out of there.

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cherry*135 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:21:27 GMT

My interpretation: OP listed 2 items, neither sold. They have $8 ebay fees to pay and don't know why, and the fees have been taken out of their paypal a/c by eBay (auto payment).

The 2 listings (unsold, relisted by OP then cancelled early by OP) were in Sept though. Any fees on a current invoice would have been incurred in August?

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digital*ghost — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:38:51 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
Any fees on a current invoice would have been incurred in August?

Depends on the billing cycle - on this account, my invoice is generated on the 1st of every month, but on my other account it's on the 15th of every month (it's one or the other for all accounts, as far as I know), so for those who are billed on the 15th, it'd be half and half each time, give or take.

@I couldn't see anything that would result in fees, and can't think of any features or subscriptions off-hand that are @$8.00, though.

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lousbloomingarden — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:57:58 GMT

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2011.narelle — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:11:28 GMT

It's scarey but your a gardener & it's seed sprouting season & i already said what i thought you shoul be growing in that spare paddock you've got.You can't sell that on eBay but it will relax you during eBay's new reign of terror

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digital*ghost — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:16:34 GMT

@lou*sbloomin*garden* wrote:
Starting this month,the U.S has the No Hassles Refund system where eBay refunds after sending the buyer a postage label to post the item back to the seller,then they bill the seller for return postage at eBay rates.

Can hardly wait for THAT tin of worms

The managed returns thing has been around for a couple of years in the US and UK, it just has been optional until now (not sure if they are making it mandatory in the UK or not).

I think it's a decent idea, if you're grading eBay on a scale anyway (i.e. in comparison to the defect system etc). It gives buyers an official alternative to having to open a dispute (which isn't appropriate when it's a change of mind return) and helps streamline the whole process - the seller can choose who is responsible for return postage, so it's only if they choose to be responsible that the seller is billed, otherwise the buyer is. Except if the item is not as described or faulty, then the seller is automatically responsible for return postage (which is a good thing, IMO, in genuine cases of INAD etc).

The concern from sellers now, however, is that with everyone who accepts returns having to use the managed returns system, buyers will falsely claim INAD, faulty etc in order to avoid paying return postage costs. Technically, they already could, and some do, but I guess the fear is that this makes it easier. Particularly as it's all automated so the seller can't converse with the buyer about the problem and once a return is on the way, the seller is obliged to refund within a certain amount of time or I think it happens automatically if they don't.

It's been a while since I read up on all the details, so I can't recall what recourse a seller has if the item is returned in a different condition, or they receive a completely different item back.

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digital*ghost — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:24:53 GMT

@digital*ghost wrote:

The concern from sellers now, however, is that with everyone who accepts returns having to use the managed returns system, buyers will falsely claim INAD, faulty etc in order to avoid paying return postage costs. Technically, they already could,

Wait a minute... No they couldn't

At least, not via a PayPal claim etc. Don't know what I was thinking of there.

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2011.narelle — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:32:23 GMT

It doesn't cover change of mind,so there is a lot of comments on the U.S boards that buyers are damaging items to avoid paying for returns.SNAD has increased a lot too.

Also during the Christmas holiday season the 30 day returns is increased to a 90 day money back guarantee.

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egglesdtp — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:39:06 GMT

@2011.narelle wrote:
Starting this month,the U.S has the No Hassles Refund system where eBay refunds after sending the buyer a postage label to post the item back to the seller,then they bill the seller for return postage at eBay rates.

With every U.S listing except for car sales,there is the eBay banner on the listing with something about money back guarantee & you have no choice even if your listing states no refunds.
Yes that is the U.S but we will probably get it next & PayPal probably want access to bank accounts to refund buyers if the seller transfers the $ out of their PayPal account.

If this No Hassles Refunds was introduced into Australia, that would be the end for me on ebay. I sell mainly women's clothes, the greatest number of them are secondhand. I don't have anything to replace them with as they are all one-offs, and I can imagine the returns because something doesn't fit (although I always provide measurments in my listings) or the colour isnt right, or it doesn't suit or some other lame excuse. What happens if a buyer buys a secondhand item, wears and then washes it and wants to return it? The mind boggles....

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i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:00:48 GMT

@egglesdtp wrote:
. What happens if a buyer buys a secondhand item, wears and then washes it and wants to return it? The mind boggles....

I think that has already been happening........