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How nice of ebay

dylan11235813 — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 23:43:20 GMT

Hi Dylan,

Thanks for consistently delivering exceptional service to your buyers. We're here to provide you a marketplace where you can sell with confidence. That's why we've taken the following steps during the past month to protect your account:

Upgraded 77 of your detailed seller rating(s) to five stars

We've already updated your seller dashboard to reflect these changes, which are for transactions made during the past year. When we remove transaction defects, your transaction defect rate may not go down if you had transactions that received more than one defect.

What a load of garbage.....No doubt the scammers that flood the australian site got the same thing enabling them to continue selling......It really does seem like ebay is protecting some now......I think I am going to be sick.....I want all my given ratings or nothing at all.

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dylan11235813 — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 23:53:30 GMT

I thought with the new system my competition from over yonda would be taken out, wishfull thinking.

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clarry100 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:16:22 GMT

We just now received one of these very same messages.

I dentical wording except ours says 306 ratings.

There is no change to our defect rate tho. Its still at 0.96%.

We are on a 3-month report cycle tho because of our sales volume so all the ones they have changed are possibly outside this time and will therefore have ZERO impact on the defects.

I think this is a bit like giving us 1-million free listings that are of ZERO use to us.

Mighty big of them really.

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pennyforum14 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:29:04 GMT

If you offer free postage, the buyer doesn't get to rate you for Postage costs.

If you have a 1 day turnaround and upload tracking numbers within this time, the buyer doesn't get to rate you on Postage time.

If you have a transaction that went throught without any direct communication between buyer and seller, the buyer doesn't get to rate you on communication.

Ebay classes all these situations as instances of "protecting our selling accounts".

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dylan11235813 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:34:59 GMT

They are now selectively removing low ratings for some sellers. They don't have a system that is for everyone and decide who is in or out. If this continues I would love to here what the ACCC thinks.

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dylan11235813 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:36:30 GMT

are you 100% on this?

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dylan11235813 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:41:56 GMT

Also if there is no rateing what is there to upgrade?? upgrade nothing to five??

Upgraded 77 of your detailed seller rating(s) to five stars

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pennyforum14 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:44:41 GMT

99%, there is no such thing as 100% when dealing with Ebay.

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pennyforum14 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:45:56 GMT

Yes, the buyer cannot select a star rating in these situations, and Ebay automatically allocates five stars to the seller.

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cassie135 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:50:13 GMT

I got a thank you email too.

I don't care what they do with my seller account.

I don't intend on using it.

Too much politics for a small seller like me.

They've pretty much lost me as a buyer too, I'm tired of having to sift through the loads of Chinese garbage or check certain requirements everytime I want to search for something in Aus.

I've bought Christmas presents from catchoftheday.

My regular sellers I buy from on here also sell on etsy or facebook so from now I shop with them that way.

And I'm finding a lot of small Aussie business have their own websites I buy from that I never went looking for before.

Ebay can do what they like!

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egglesdtp — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:53:15 GMT

Penny

Re: If you have a 1 day turnaround and upload tracking numbers within this time, the buyer doesn't get to rate you on Postage time.

I got a defect when I had posted and added the tracking number within 24 hours of receiving a payment, but the buyer gave me low DSRs for postage time. It took many phone calls and emails to have it removed. So I don't think it is automatic that buyers cannot rate you on postage time.

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cherry*135 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:21:52 GMT

penny: if you have a 1 day turnaround and upload tracking numbers within this time, the buyer doesn't get to rate you on Postage time.

What I am wondering about that is - does the post within 1 day start from the time the item is sold, or the time the buyer pays for the item?

If buyer doesn't pay till day 2 or 3, then you can't upload tracking numbers within 1 day of sale. I wouldn't create an online postage label until the buyer pays (incase they don't).

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cq_tech — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:24:14 GMT

Am I missing something, or what? I received a similar email from eBay this morning which says that they have:

Removed 3 transaction defect(s) from your seller dashboard
Upgraded 1 of your detailed seller rating(s) to five stars

Yet ever since this defect business first started, I've only ever accrued 2 defects and they still appear on my Seller's Dashboard. I must be incredibly thick or something because I have no bloody idea what they're talking about. Can some kind soul put me out of my misery and try explaining to me in words of one syllable exactly what the hell they mean?

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pennyforum14 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:25:13 GMT

I'm just going by what I read in the Seller Protection area.

We'll automatically award you 5-star DSRs in the following categories, when:

Postage and handling charges: You offer free postage, the buyer chose that option and left you Feedback.
Communication:
- You offer 0-1 business day handling time and upload valid tracking information within one business day;
- At the time the buyer leaves Feedback, there are no communications initiated in eBay Messages* and no pending eBay Money Back Guarantee or PayPal Purchase Protection cases; and
- There haven't been any requests for contact information between you and the buyer.
*Best Offers, Second Chance Offers, invoices and invoice requests don't affect automatic 5-star eligibility, even if they contain messages added by the buyer or seller.

We'll automatically remove low (1-star) DSRs for Postage time when you offer 0-1 business day handling time and upload valid postage tracking information within one business day of receiving cleared payment.

We'll automatically remove transaction defects and related Feedback in situations where the transaction problem was not your fault, as outlined in our Defect removal policy. You may request the removal of these types of defects and related Feedback if they aren't automatically removed.

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dylan11235813 — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:31:51 GMT

so that is what people are given, what is the upgrade?

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feliz_da_kat — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:55:02 GMT

@pennyforum14 wrote:
If you have a transaction that went throught without any direct communication between buyer and seller, the buyer doesn't get to rate you on communication.

Is this new? I've had transactions where the seller and I never messaged each other and I've had the ablity to rate on their communication.

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egglesdtp — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:56:34 GMT

All I can say is that my experience certainly didn't match what their policy states. Perhaps the fact that the buyer took 4 days to pay negated the policy? although this is addressed in the phrase I have bolded below.

@pennyforum14 wrote:
I'm just going by what I read in the Seller Protection area.

We'll automatically award you 5-star DSRs in the following categories, when:
Postage and handling charges: You offer free postage, the buyer chose that option and left you Feedback.
Communication:
You offer 0-1 business day handling time and upload valid tracking information within one business day;
At the time the buyer leaves Feedback, there are no communications initiated in eBay Messages* and no pending eBay Money Back Guarantee or PayPal Purchase Protection cases; and
There haven't been any requests for contact information between you and the buyer.
*Best Offers, Second Chance Offers, invoices and invoice requests don't affect automatic 5-star eligibility, even if they contain messages added by the buyer or seller.
We'll automatically remove low (1-star) DSRs for Postage time when you offer 0-1 business day handling time and upload valid postage tracking information within one business day of receiving cleared payment.
We'll automatically remove transaction defects and related Feedback in situations where the transaction problem was not your fault, as outlined in our Defect removal policy. You may request the removal of these types of defects and related Feedback if they aren't automatically removed.

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ms_aussie — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 04:35:31 GMT

Hi Dylan,

I was the luck recipient of one of these lovely letters today too. I understand your nausea. Especially seeing I've closed my shop and taken all of my listings down because I can't trust eBay to look after me; nor do I wish to expose myself to their defective defect system. Are eBay stupid or what???

They actually took credit for taking away a defect that was left by a very nasty buyer who left an Item Not As Described low rating after she had not paid for the item nor had she ever received it!!! It took me about 6 emails to get the unfair low rating taken down. Wow! How efficient are they???

Then they claim to have taken two low ratings that were unfairly left by another buyer who gave me some of the most glowing feedback I've ever had. Thanks for doing that eBay. Funny thing though the numbers are still the same even though I have not had anymore sales since

When will eBay ever realise that their DSRs are what's defective and not the seller who tries to do his/her best to deal honestly with buyers while, at the same time, having to cope with this defective system.

Get real eBay. Stop insulting a person's intelligence

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ms_aussie — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 04:51:36 GMT

Penny,

I received a Postage Time low rating following a long weekend. I had a Same Day postage policy but that meant nothing to the buyer. All she could see was that she purchased on the Friday and the parcel was not posted until Tuesday. We do not have Saturday postal services where I live. I emailed the buyer and explained this to her but it made no difference. It seems that when she was faced with the chore of rating my performance she went ahead and gave me a low rating. Why? Because she could.

The only rating I have ever seen closed for comment is for postage costs on Free Postage listings. Something tells me that if buyers could leave a rating on that category some would leave a low rating just because the can.

There is no way eBay protect sellers by removing low ratings. Just get an unfair one and try to have eBay remove it! They don't care!

Good luck

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ms_aussie — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 04:57:51 GMT

They lie! I think you might understand this 🙂