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more paypal BS

redneck2013au — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:34:36 GMT

Hi again,

We just checked our paypal acct. to get the address for something just sold and we got a new msg at the top reading The funds you receive from eBay sales may not be available for up to 21 days. This could be because you are still yet to meet eBay's selling and PayPal's risk standards. If the buyer reports an issue, the funds may be held for longer. However, in some cases your funds can be available sooner. What the hell is THIS new BS. Checked the last sale and it said funds available 10/Dec?? Both accounts are 100% and there has never been a return or refund or for that matter ANY problem in 2 1/2 years. Now they are going to start holding peoples money for 3 weeks for nothing? Is anyone else having this issue with paypal?

Re: more paypal BS

redneck2013au — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:42:25 GMT

my wife is on the phone with ebay now and they are telling her it's ebays new rule unless you provide a tracking number. on your shipping they will be holding your money for up to 3 weeks like it or not.. BS!!! What we sell is 2-5 dollar items that go in a standard c4 envelope with 2 stamps. We have NEVER had a complaint and have 4.9 stars on 1 acct and 5 stars on the other for shipping. This is getting to be a *&%$@# joke all this new sh**

Re: more paypal BS

redneck2013au — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:58:51 GMT

cool...they, out of the kindness of their hearts, have released the $2 they were holding as a one time thing. They said it had to be because of a defect in our ratings. Told her there were none go look. She did and guess what...no defects. But she did say this will be from now on. If you don't supple tracking money will be held up to 3 weeks or until pos. feedback is received. I don't know about you all but we have buyers going back to a year ago that never left any feedback. ok enough. My wife told the woman that EVERTIME they hold money they can expect a call. Momma was right...i shoulda been a doctor or a lawyer .

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:59:43 GMT

Sorry to say my friend, but it's happened to me on my newer secondary account for the same reasons. I'm as livid as you are.

I rang Paypal and they told me that it is Ebay placing the hold on the funds and that I should take it up with them. Of course, Ebay don't give a flying F whether or not we have the funds to post these items whilst we wait for the 21 ridiculous days.

I just went into my second acc and found a sale which is an E-cheque through paypal, so it won't clear for at LEAST four days - I wonder does that ADD to the already ludicrous 21?

Feeling your pain and frustration.

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bigbrickshop — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:59:54 GMT

It is ridiculous.

Have you linked your eBay selling accounts? That may help to lift the hold on the funds.

The changes were announced as part of the eBay Money Back Guarantee which started 1st November

http://sellercentre.ebay.com.au/funds-availability

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character_parties_aus — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:01:12 GMT

I use paypal on my website as well as ebay and if they ever try and pull any stunts I threaten to pull the paypal gateway off the site. That gets them jumping. Its great to have leverage.

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:06:04 GMT

Mine are linked BigBricks, and have had several heated discussions with both Paypal and Ebay about the ridiciulousness of it.

They just don't care - and that's the bottom line.

@bigbrickshop wrote:
It is ridiculous.

Have you linked your eBay selling accounts? That may help to lift the hold on the funds.

The changes were announced as part of the eBay Money Back Guarantee which started 1st November

http://sellercentre.ebay.com.au/funds-availability

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redneck2013au — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:06:24 GMT

yes mate..both accounts are linked ..it's pretty bad when the harder you work the more you get penalized for it.

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:07:10 GMT

Impressive 😄 Good on you character parties!! I love to see at least someone is delivering some karma to them.

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cherry*135 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:30:40 GMT

This must only apply to newer accounts that started with limited listings?

It hasn't affected one of my accounts that has been registered for 10 yrs. i do use another one to sell that has been registered 1 year and had restrictions on number of items sold per month.

I post items as large letters a lot too, no tracking numbers.

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bigbrickshop — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:48:11 GMT

If you're sending items without tracking then the funds will probably be held for less than 21 days if you mark the items as posted in eBay.

From the link above

Based on your postage method and information you provide us, funds that are temporarily placed on hold should be available:

3 days after we can confirm the order was delivered when you provide tracking information automatically through buying and printing your postage on eBay.

7 days after your latest estimated delivery date when you manually upload tracking information or mark the item as posted in My eBay.

21 days after your buyer pays if you don't upload tracking and you don't mark your item as sent in My eBay.

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retrogirl*co — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:54:44 GMT

Yes this happened to me in the last few days. If you add a tracking number in PayPal they will release the funds as soon as your item is delivered. When I rang PayPal they said it was due to low seller activity. This will is really harmful to sellers - as buyers will now see that the funds are held for 21 days. I have 100 percent feedback. Is this legal?

Robyn

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:10:08 GMT

As far as I can tell, the only criteria I have not met (on that newer account) is the "90 days since your first sale" ... everything else I have covered. So, I am now going to have funds held for 21 days, for no other reason, until the 20th of January.

Re: more paypal BS

redneck2013au — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:20:25 GMT

Now here's an idea EBay should consider..how about waiting waiting up to 3 weeks on their FVF's till I get MY money. 21 days after your buyer pays if you don't upload tracking and you don't mark your item as sent in My eBay Our itemsare taken to the Post 2 times a day some days..1 on slow days. Some items sell for 1.75 + 1.70 for stamps and envelope. coming to 3.45. I am now supposed to tell them I am charging another 3.50 for a tracking number?? Geez, I'd be telling MYSELF where to go. At the end of the day EBay need to learn a very simple rule: If it's not broke...DON"T try and fix it! I really do miss the "good ole days" when ebay used to be run by people with brains. They have been replaced by robots now IMHO.

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:34:08 GMT

They have been replaced by robots now IMHO.

Robots.... and people for whom English is a second language.

Don't get me wrong, this is nothing racist at all - it's about basic communication skills.

If I cannot understand you, and you cannot understand me, how the hell can anything ever be resolved or worked on to any acceptable level?

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crowsman53 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:41:36 GMT

I wonder how much Interest Ebay and Paypal are making each month by holding sellers payments for 21 days? I think it would be a lot so it is Just Another eBay Fee with out you knowing...

Crowsman

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treasuress.4207 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:10:46 GMT

What's really grinding my gears about the whole deal, is that we are completely POWERLESS.

WHY are we powerless? If a store was trying this carp, we would go to the office of fair trading.....

I wonder if it would work - or whether the company being based in the USA would make it different?

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i-love-my-sheep — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:21:44 GMT

Does anyone know how much PayPal has to pay if the Ombudsman is called? My mate had no luck when he called them. He even resorted to telling them that he would be putting in a report with the Ombudsman and they said "if that's what you feel you need to do, then that's what you should do". I'd love to know how much PayPal has to pay when that happens.

Maybe if they get fined enough times they might reconsider this stupid rule for established, long term sellers who happen to start a new account.

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lyndal1838 — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:47:35 GMT

I believe I read somewhere that the charge is $1500+ when the ombudsman is involved. Disclaimer.....I don't know this from experience, just hearsay!!!

Edited for spelling mistake.

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cq_tech — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:39:18 GMT

I hope that's true. I have no real idea myself other than once being told that the amount charged was "several hundred dollars" but if it is indeed $1500 then it's not hard to see why they make the occasional discretionary payments in order to do their level best to avoid involving the FOS. It's true when they say that knowledge is power, because knowing the above is like having a bloody big hammer to wield at Paypal if or when the need ever arises.