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Is this a scam ?

horizon1907 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 04:10:34 GMT

item 171641527228

Re: Is this a scam ?

repentatleisure1952 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 04:17:54 GMT

@horizon1907 wrote:
item 171641527228

All looks ok.$2.5K for this seems about right.

New seller who listed with auction & BIN price & has attracted new members as bidders so it's bound to end in tears.

Re: Is this a scam ?

black*poppy — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 04:18:36 GMT

Haha great pocket bike for work.

Re: Is this a scam ?

bobbiegower — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 04:19:32 GMT

Looks OK to me, no reserve car auctions tend to jump in value in the last few minutes so you'll probably find it will go pretty close to the $2500 BIN price.

Re: Is this a scam ?

horizon1907 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 05:10:19 GMT

When you search that catagory ( Pocket Bikes ) it's just littered with Scammers. Do ebay actually care about anything !!!! Reporting them is utterly useless.

Re: Is this a scam ?

go-tazz — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:07:56 GMT

@horizon1907 wrote:
When you search that catagory ( Pocket Bikes ) it's just littered with Scammers. Do ebay actually care about anything !!!! Reporting them is utterly useless.

When searching price + postage,lowest first in pocket bikes 16 out of the first 120 or so items are either scam

items or are in the wrong category.

Reporting them via the listing seems pointless as nothing seems to ever change that way.

My watch list has 17 scam items on it,(listings from the 10th of Jan to the ones from today).

The latest one that was Naru'd this week had items that were reported in early December and ended up with 34

negs before they acted,(some of the feedback states: Liar, I never received the shipment, no protection from

paypal,item not received seller does not answer emails ebay says no buyer protection,Don't buy from this p***k,

there is no paypal protection, you'll lose your money.

So it's a negative effect all around,

Re: Is this a scam ?

kopenhagen5 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:20:25 GMT

Just looks like a new seller not knowing the BIN disappears, thinking it a reserve.

Re: Is this a scam ?

padi*0409 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:38:44 GMT

It's a real shame Taz that eBay insists on shooting themselves in both feet - they hammer some sellers with defects and dsr's then shortly after restrict their selling abilities, yet allow free reign to blatant scammers (usually Chinese), then on the other hand they give no protection to inexperienced buyers that have been ripped off by those scammers (unless they know they can ring Paypal to open a case after talking to a supervisor).

For sellers the new Paypal rules and the MBG are a complete joke and will certainly see more and more buyers use them as a means to rip sellers off - the result will be and is more and more small to medium sellers jumping eBay's ship.

Great thinking eBay - use as many "improvements" to the eBay experience as you can, then sit back and watch while you destroy the trading platform for newbie/inexperienced buyers (I'm sure they won't tell their mates about it LOL) and at the same time get rid of the vulnerable sellers with your inflexible terms and conditions.

Apologies for highjacking the thread horizon, but I hate watching eBay slowly but surely self destructing by the actions of brain-dead CEO's and board members, I'm sure the shareholders must be loving every bit of it.........

Re: Is this a scam ?

horizon1907 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:42:18 GMT

@go-tazz wrote:
@horizon1907 wrote:
When you search that catagory ( Pocket Bikes ) it's just littered with Scammers. Do ebay actually care about anything !!!! Reporting them is utterly useless.
When searching price + postage,lowest first in pocket bikes 16 out of the first 120 or so items are either scam

items or are in the wrong category.

Reporting them via the listing seems pointless as nothing seems to ever change that way.

My watch list has 17 scam items on it,(listings from the 10th of Jan to the ones from today).

The latest one that was Naru'd this week had items that were reported in early December and ended up with 34

negs before they acted,(some of the feedback states: Liar, I never received the shipment, no protection from

paypal,item not received seller does not answer emails ebay says no buyer protection,Don't buy from this p***k,

there is no paypal protection, you'll lose your money.

So it's a negative effect all around,

My point exactly go -tazz what is the point of even bothering to report them. Bug*** all is done about it. Why even have the "Report Item" buttons there in place ? They are Blatantly scams, but nothing ever gets done on this site. It's RIFE with BS from everywhere. Just makes me laugh when you see Gowns listed in pocket Bikes etc etc and ebay just leaves them there. Any wonder ebay is on Skid Row.

Re: Is this a scam ?

horizon1907 — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:51:33 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
It's a real shame Taz that eBay insists on shooting themselves in both feet - they hammer some sellers with defects and dsr's then shortly after restrict their selling abilities, yet allow free reign to blatant scammers (usually Chinese), then on the other hand they give no protection to inexperienced buyers that have been ripped off by those scammers (unless they know they can ring Paypal to open a case after talking to a supervisor).

For sellers the new Paypal rules and the MBG are a complete joke and will certainly see more and more buyers use them as a means to rip sellers off - the result will be and is more and more small to medium sellers jumping eBay's ship.

Great thinking eBay - use as many "improvements" to the eBay experience as you can, then sit back and watch while you destroy the trading platform for newbie/inexperienced buyers (I'm sure they won't tell their mates about it LOL) and at the same time get rid of the vulnerable sellers with your inflexible terms and conditions.

Apologies for highjacking the thread horizon, but I hate watching eBay slowly but surely self destructing by the actions of brain-dead CEO's and board members, I'm sure the shareholders must be loving every bit of it.........

I'm glad you did padi* coz it proves I'm not the only one fed up to the Back Teeth with this carp. ( yes from Chinese Sellers mostly ) And yes, I admit I have a HUGE problem with the majority of these so called Sellers. ( more correctly called Scammers ) Ebay condone this with open arms. BTW padi* I love watching ebay self destruct. They have no one to blame but themselves & greed.

Re: Is this a scam ?

go-tazz — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 06:54:23 GMT

@kopenhagen5 wrote:
Just looks like a new seller not knowing the BIN disappears, thinking it a reserve.

They listed in the wrong category and probably didn't know that they can't set a reserve in pocket bikes and

thought the BIN option was the reserve,(they could've if they had used the correct category).

@padi*0409 wrote:
It's a real shame Taz that eBay insists on shooting themselves in both feet - they hammer some sellers with defects and dsr's then shortly after restrict their selling abilities, yet allow free reign to blatant scammers (usually Chinese), then on the other hand they give no protection to inexperienced buyers that have been ripped off by those scammers (unless they know they can ring Paypal to open a case after talking to a supervisor).

That's why I get so frustrated when my watch list keeps growing,

@horizon1907 wrote:
@go-tazz wrote:
@horizon1907 wrote:
When you search that catagory ( Pocket Bikes ) it's just littered with Scammers. Do ebay actually care about anything !!!! Reporting them is utterly useless.

My point exactly go -tazz what is the point of even bothering to report them. Bug*** all is done about it. Why even have the "Report Item" buttons there in place ? They are Blatantly scams, but nothing ever gets done on this site. It's RIFE with BS from everywhere. Just makes me laugh when you see Gowns listed in pocket Bikes etc etc and ebay just leaves them there. Any wonder ebay is on Skid Row.

That report system is all but useless as the T & S agents have no idea as to why they are being reported
as the scammers are the owners of those accounts,(they basically tell them that their account has been hijacked and to correct it).

All the scammer does is keep going,

Re: Is this a scam ?

i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:57:50 GMT

The 4 or 5 sellers that I reported today that had their items removed or they were made NARU, I did the usual reports - fake item, avoiding ebay fees by listing in wrong category, fraudulent listing etc, BUT, I also reported under prohibited item and used the firearms, weapons and kninves, then explosives and grenades option. I wanted to use something really out there to get their attention. Interestingly, only the ones I used that last option on got removed.

Here's one of our all time favourites. 251801792322

Re: Is this a scam ?

go-tazz — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:26:14 GMT

261730949972 , this one that was first reported on the 12th has now "sold" over $9000 worth of scam items.

99.6% as no negs have hit yet but they've "sold" over 100 scam items,(so expect that to change).

These are the copy cats: 111578299521 , 161567679379

281556389293 ,currently at 88.2% with 4 negs.

171637595178 ,12.5% with 42 negs.

321603982273 , 50% with 3 negs and no feedback on another 5 scam items.

331417476470 this one was finally NARU'd 47.2% with 34 negs,(so it wont show but it's still in my watch list).

Re: Is this a scam ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 08:16:26 GMT

Tazz,

I have a spare hour or so, PM me your worst 10 listings or sellers and I will get to work.

Re: Is this a scam ?

i-love-my-sheep — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:01:30 GMT

Mr Makita had his scam Makita removed today, but has now relisted it. Talk about bold! I reported it when I got home from work at 11pm last night and it had only been live for a bit under an hour. By 8am this morning, 33 buyers had been scammed.

Several of the listings reported last night have been removed today and 2 sellers were NARU'd. I think I closed 5 tabs all up.

Kopes, here's ones that I'm attacking at the moment. I think the more reports they get the more likely they are to remove them.

251798099191 - 4 items, 35 feedback 100%. Listed in Trucks, Commercial Vehicles and Car, Truck Parts.

261743560245 - relisted fake Makita. 7items in Go Karts. 366 feedback, 98.9%. 4 negatives unrelated to scam listings.

111576687009 - 21 listings. Some kind of Japanese dolls in Pocket Bikes. 53 feedback, 100%

161569763635 - 11 listings. 2 were removed today. Electronics including phones. 134 feedback, 99.3%. 1 negative not related to scam items. Actually, looking at their listings now, they were all removed and have been relisted. I know that because they are not showing that I have clicked on them and they are showing 6d 23h and 9d 23h.

371241063764 - 6 listings in pocket bikes. Some appear to have been removed today, but they have listed new ones, including phones. 226 feedback, 1 negative unrelated to scam items.

371241063764 - 1 listing left out of 11 in go karts. 294 feedback, 95.7%. 1 negative.

221669262403 - new addition this afternoon. 2 listings. Similar items removed yesterday. Can't remember if it was the same seller or not. 2 listings in Pocket Bikes. 99 feedback, 97.9% 2 negatives unrelated to scam items.

Tazz has probably listed some of these same sellers above, I haven't looked at those numbers yet.

Re: Is this a scam ?

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:17:00 GMT

251798099191 Can't fault that one. They are sold for trucks.

Re: Is this a scam ?

i-love-my-sheep — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:42:13 GMT

@kopenhagen5 wrote:
251798099191 Can't fault that one. They are sold for trucks.

Maybe so, but I still reckon it's a scam. Look at the profile pic, the ID was changed in November and the feedback left for others more than a year ago were clearly written by someone who's first language was English. The recent feedback received are from low feedback 'buyers', which is the same as most of the scammers show. The transactions were also conducted in GBP.

I believe this one is a hacked account.

Re: Is this a scam ?

go-tazz — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:59:25 GMT

@i-love-my-sheep wrote:
@kopenhagen5 wrote:
251798099191 Can't fault that one. They are sold for trucks.
Maybe so, but I still reckon it's a scam. Look at the profile pic, the ID was changed in November and the feedback left for others more than a year ago were clearly written by someone who's first language was English. The recent feedback received are from low feedback 'buyers', which is the same as most of the scammers show. The transactions were also conducted in GBP.

I believe this one is a hacked account.

Hijacked account

There are a few things there that scream scam.

They listed in the UK only over a year ago,become dormant and only switched to Aus when selling these.

The first 2 feedback comments are from low feedback members,(so most likely "mates" buying as the feedback

is very positive).

They changed their ID in November and then waited till the ID change wasn't on their ID,(The arrow bit

proclaiming they changed ID).

They are also selling 3 other scam items for less then a tenth of their true price plus they have 3 sitting in

completed with 29 sales.

This is my current watch list as some have been removed.:

121544502217

111578299521

251801779191

221669263618

371240280958

161567679379

151558579644

251801792322

261730949972

111578093140

171637595178 , 44 negs now

281556389293 , 4 negs

321603982273 ,pointless reporting this one as all completed

331417476470 ,NARU'd

Re: Is this a scam ?

i-love-my-sheep — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:01:41 GMT

The account we suspect is hijacked now has a negative stating just that. The items are still listed though, despite multiple reports. Where is it going to end? If they hadn't blocked buyer ID's, I'd be happy to send them a message warning them, but eBay put a stop to that. That makes me think they don't have an issue with scammers.