topic Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised in Selling

Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

clarry100 — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:22:53 GMT

A short while back we opened an FOS case against PayPal for 21-day withholding of our funds.

They instantly released the funds after that.

We have two auction IDs selling the same kind of items. We make use of the 40x free listings each month for this.

Since we raised this FOS case the selling ID which was the subject of the hold has not had a single sale and very few watchers.

The other aucton ID is still making the occasional sale as per usual. No changes.

It kinda looks like the account has been restricted deliberately in retaliation for raising the FOS case.

The items never come up the serach results list as they near the end of the auction as they once did.

Just wondered if anyone else has noticed anything similar on their selling account after opening a case?

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

harley_babes_hoard — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:43:49 GMT

I haven't opened a case but I highly doubt what you are experiencing is in retaliation to lodging a complaint.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

horizon1907 — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:50:43 GMT

@clarry100 wrote:
A short while back we opened an FOS case against PayPal for 21-day withholding of our funds.
They instantly released the funds after that.

We have two auction IDs selling the same kind of items. We make use of the 40x free listings each month for this.

Since we raised this FOS case the selling ID which was the subject of the hold has not had a single sale and very few watchers.
The other aucton ID is still making the occasional sale as per usual. No changes.

It kinda looks like the account has been restricted deliberately in retaliation for raising the FOS case.
The items never come up the serach results list as they near the end of the auction as they once did.

Just wondered if anyone else has noticed anything similar on their selling account after opening a case?

clarry, who knows what ebay is capable of doing ? IMO they are as bad, if not worse, than their Scammer mates on here. They let them slide along merrily without even givin em a look. Yes, I do think they are capable of anything !!!!

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

zelly888 — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:14:37 GMT

Just throwing it out there but does the ID that isn't selling much have less feedback score?

If it does then it's the situation that I'm in meaning the accounts that have the lowest feedback are the ones that are either not selling as much as my higher accounts or they are selling for way less than the others,and I sell the same items.

So to me it just shows a pattern of that good old saying the rich get richer,IMO I have always said that the more sales you have had then the more you will keep selling even though a buyer can get it cheaper elsewhere.

But to answer your question,I don't think there would be any retaliation,they're all in it to make money.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

asporty — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:16:06 GMT

I certainly think that what you are suggesting OP is possible. If you note here in the forums also, posters like harley_babes_hoard are probably ebay plants who are there to mostly guide people in ebay issues and mellow down any ebay criticism that comes along. While harley clearly refuted ebay criticism this time, mostly these ebay planted posters will do so in a very subtle manner. Like saying something in a helpful sort of manner. kind of like a suggestion.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

daniellebradydesigns — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:25:22 GMT

@asporty wrote:
I certainly think that what you are suggesting OP is possible. If you note here in the forums also, posters like @harley_babes_hoard are probably ebay plants who are there to mostly guide people in ebay issues and mellow down any ebay criticism that comes along. While harley clearly refuted ebay criticism this time, mostly these ebay planted posters will do so in a very subtle manner. Like saying something in a helpful sort of manner. kind of like a suggestion.

Dumbest thing I've read on these forums. And I've read some pretty stupid responses....

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

old_new_emporium — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:31:53 GMT

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Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

asporty — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:39:02 GMT

@thebowlerhat2012 wrote:

Dumbest thing I've read on these forums. And I've read some pretty stupid responses....

Another ebay employee revealed. Surprising how dumb (and stupid) these people are when pushed.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

pennyforum14 — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:07:00 GMT

asporty wrote:

thebowlerhat2012 wrote:

Dumbest thing I've read on these forums. And I've read some pretty stupid responses....

Another ebay employee revealed. Surprising how dumb (and stupid) these people are when pushed.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Oh...conspiracy theories.

Put your tinfoil hat back on and stop defaming members with absolutely no evidence to back up your claims.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

clarry100 — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:37:20 GMT

Zelly... I guess FB scores are a possibility. But they are both pretty low as follows.

The account that is still selling reasonably OK was started in July 2014 and has a FB score of 89 (100%).

The other one that has dried up was started in Sept 2014 and has a score of 28 (100%)

This is the one PayPal put the funds hold on. The other one has never had anything put on hold.

It was doing OK up until I put in the FOS claim.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

englishrosegardens — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:41:14 GMT

@asporty wrote:
@thebowlerhat2012 wrote:

Dumbest thing I've read on these forums. And I've read some pretty stupid responses....
Another ebay employee revealed. Surprising how dumb (and stupid) these people are when pushed.

Why is it that whenever anyone thinks with their brain rather than their emotions, they're labelled as an ebay employee?

If ebay employees were this rational I doubt people would have so many problems when they contact customer service!

Clarry, if you have two different IDs selling the same kind of item you could be closed down for violating policy. If you read the rules on fee avoidance you aren't allowed to start a new ID just to get extra freebies and avoid listing fees. If you sell completely different products it's allowed, but not if you're selling the same type of product. Why people boast about doing this when it's against the rules is beyond me. It's just a matter of time before you're picked up on it, and we could all end up losing our freebies if they decide too many people are abusing the system.

Yeah, call me another ebay employee just because I speak rationally.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

phorum_junkie* — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:51:13 GMT

Where in the policies does it say you cannot sell the same type of item on multiple ids? You cannot list the same item in the same format but I have never seen anything about different items.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

zelly888 — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:51:40 GMT

Show me the policy that states what you are saying.

I have 8 accounts and have had them for a long time and if I was breaching any of ebays policies then they would have done something about them by now.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

zelly888 — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:53:16 GMT

You're definately not an ebay employee because you don't know their policies

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

harley_babes_hoard — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:59:27 GMT

@asporty wrote:
I certainly think that what you are suggesting OP is possible. If you note here in the forums also, posters like @harley_babes_hoard are probably ebay plants who are there to mostly guide people in ebay issues and mellow down any ebay criticism that comes along. While harley clearly refuted ebay criticism this time, mostly these ebay planted posters will do so in a very subtle manner. Like saying something in a helpful sort of manner. kind of like a suggestion.

some people are just born that way, I know you can't help it asporty

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

egglesdtp — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:56:39 GMT

Clarry, if you have two different IDs selling the same kind of item you could be closed down for violating policy. If you read the rules on fee avoidance you aren't allowed to start a new ID just to get extra freebies and avoid listing fees. If you sell completely different products it's allowed, but not if you're selling the same type of product. Why people boast about doing this when it's against the rules is beyond me. I

Can you point me to the 'rule' that says you cannot sell the same type of item on different IDs?

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 01:00:06 GMT

@zelly888 wrote:
You're definately not an ebay employee because you don't know their policies

All the more reason why she COULD be an eBay employee, because she DOESN'T know the policies! Most employees wouldn't have a clue about most of the policies, that's why we have so many issues. That's why we have so many members calling in here because when they've contacted eBay, they had no idea what they were on about.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

harley_babes_hoard — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 01:02:06 GMT

I must admit when I started another ID recently " a just incase" It did say something about not listing same item across both ID's which is why I never bothered with it.

Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 01:04:41 GMT

@asporty wrote:
I certainly think that what you are suggesting OP is possible. If you note here in the forums also, posters like @harley_babes_hoard are probably ebay plants who are there to mostly guide people in ebay issues and mellow down any ebay criticism that comes along. While harley clearly refuted ebay criticism this time, mostly these ebay planted posters will do so in a very subtle manner. Like saying something in a helpful sort of manner. kind of like a suggestion.

It never ceases to amaze me how when someone isn't bad mouthing eBay, they are suddenly an employee. I have to ask, why would an employee have listings, not to mention post with their selling ID? Wouldn't that make them a target for unhappy members buying their stuff with the sole intention of trashing their feedback and DSR's? Why would an employee stalk these forums when they couldn't give a stuff about members?

I love the conspiricy theorists. They're always great for a good belly laugh.

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Re: Could it be Retaliation for FOS Case Raised

egglesdtp — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 01:08:10 GMT

@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
I must admit when I started another ID recently " a just incase" It did say something about not listing same item across both ID's which is why I never bothered with it.

harley - same item is a lot different to same type of item. It is fairly obvious you couldn't list the same item on two different IDs unless you have more than one of them, but I bet it didn't say you couldn't list the same type of item. If it did, where do you draw the line? Same category is not allowed? For example, if I use one ID to sell shirts, and another to sell skirts, is this a violation of the 'rule' ?