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Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:18:57 GMT

How's this for a complete and utter grub? I'm selling my camera via auction, ending Sunday (item 141589977631) and I've just noticed that another seller has listed the same camera, but with my images and description, also ending Sunday, but 4 hours earlier. His listing is 261792783888 and there is no doubt that he has stolen my entire listing and simply transposed his details into it, as he even has my camera's unique serial number in his listing!

I've sent him a nasty email and have also reported him to eBay but I'm not expecting anything to be done about it. I just can't believe that anybody would have the cheek to do such a thing. OK, I don't mind if he uses a bit of my descriptive text, but to copy the entire listing, including my images, and put his name on it has really got my back up.

I'm even considering reporting him to the police for possession of stolen goods, as he has my camera's serial number in his listing, and while nothing will come of it, perhaps he'll think twice before doing it again. I feel like creating a throwaway ID and stuffing up his auction on Sunday, except I have a bit more common decency than that (although the more I think about it...).

Typical eBay; attracts nothing but scammers, low-lives and thieves. Who'd bother shopping here any more? I certainly don't.

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

padi*0409 — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:11:35 GMT

Enact "Rule .303" CQ........................

Or you can borrow my Trebuchet..................that'll fix 'em..............

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:45:40 GMT

Don't you worry, Padi, the thought had definitely crossed my mind (and still is).

Luckily they live in Melbourne and not Brisbane, otherwise it would really hit the fan.

I have absolutely no time for thieves, which is why I absolutely loathe eBay so much. 😞

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

kopenhagen5 — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:52:56 GMT

Keep in mind his account could be hijacked.

These items are favorites with scammers.

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go-tazz — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:01:39 GMT

I've put in a report via H & C,(as the report link hasn't got the box as to why it's being reported)

I "asked" H & C whether it's a hijacked account or if they simply wanted to scam someone.

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

chezzy — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:01:35 GMT

The most recent time this happened to me I felt ebay didn't take it seriously, so I had to work harder to convince them.

I'd keep onto it - image theft particularly is a pet peeve of mine. When this happens to me I get all the 'fodder' I need

in support, screen shots of both listings, evidence that mine was there first, exif data of images, what ever it takes

to convince ebay that the material is 'mine' and that what is happening is not cool, mentions of taking it further,

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:53:47 GMT

@go-tazz wrote:
I've put in a report via H & C,(as the report link hasn't got the box as to why it's being reported)

I "asked" H & C whether it's a hijacked account or if they simply wanted to scam someone.

Nice one Corny; thanks for doing that. I sent an email to CS giving them all the relevant information before I discovered that there actually is a link in the report box regarding this issue (as well as sending the member an email asking them if stealing other people's copyrighted material was something they made a habit of doing, because I thought it was a disgusting thing to do and I've reported them to eBay). If they have any shame at all, they'll pull the lsting before Sunday, although I somehow doubt it.

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chezzy — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:18:02 GMT

Can't believe the audacity of some. It is not like it is a 'stock' description either, it is pretty clear they have copied and

pasted seller's own personal notes too!

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:22:04 GMT

@chezzy wrote:
The most recent time this happened to me I felt ebay didn't take it seriously, so I had to work harder to convince them.

I'd keep onto it - image theft particularly is a pet peeve of mine. When this happens to me I get all the 'fodder' I need
in support, screen shots of both listings, evidence that mine was there first, exif data of images, what ever it takes
to convince ebay that the material is 'mine' and that what is happening is not cool, mentions of taking it further,
copyright council etc etc etc

There should be no reason for eBay not to take my complaint seriously chezzy, as their own records will indicate when both listings first went up, and they only have to compare the 2 listings side by side to see that they are identical. The fool has even copied my Item Specifics which will at the very least earn him/her a defect for "Item Not As Described" because I've added a number of additional features and accessories to my camera which his won't have, and he's also included them in the item description field as well. He clearly didn't pay too much attention to what he was copying while he did it, because he's even transposed my camera's serial number into his listing as well (I'd like to see him try to explain that one away).

He also states that his camera includes a SDHC card reader, an SD card, a flash diffuser, an HD-S2 HD connection kit, a Fuji Remote Control, all as standard, except they're not. They are all optional accessories, and his camera certainly won't be supplied with any of those extras. The cheeky ba$tard has even copied the listing title, word for word. It will be interesting to see if eBay do their jobs, although I'll be very surprised if they do.

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chezzy — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:27:12 GMT

Oh, you have plenty of fodder. Good luck. Hope the seller doesn't get shirty and imply you should be flattered that someone likes the photos and description enough to borrow them (this happened to me a couple times) *shakes head*

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:38:48 GMT

That is EXACTLY what she said in her reply to me this morning! She reckons I should be flattered that she used my listing and couldn't understand why I'd be so angry but at least she has since revised her listing quite substantially, although she forgot to remove my camera's serial number from the Item Specifics. Oh, she also said that there's far more important stuff in the world to be worrying about than having somebody use my listing. Un-bloody-believable!

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

cq_tech — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:53:12 GMT

Now that she's changed her listing there won't be any comeback from eBay, but I thought you might like to see exactly what she wrote by way of an explanation. It just bugs me that she thinks it's perfectly OK to steal somebody else's intellectual property for her own gain...

Hi There,

I used the sell this item from your page so it pulled over most of the information. I used pictures from the internet which are the same as yours. I don't ebay very often I based my selling on your camera - you should feel complimented not annoyed. I am unsure of your anger but I am happy to change my add. Considering it is the same information on every website I don't see the drama.

Will update now. Hope you sell your items listed 🙂 I don't know that this is disgusting behaviour considering all else that is going on in the world.

Thanks

Sometimes I wonder what the world is coming to. Never mind, at least she was reasonably pleasant about it, given what I said in my initial message to her, but I believe I had every right to tell her that what she did was a disgusting act which I reported to eBay.

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curraone — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:05:05 GMT

and the serial number? did she remember to change that too?

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cq_tech — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:12:43 GMT

No, she forgot to do that. Wonder what the winner will say when the serial numbers don't match? 🙂

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digital*ghost — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:01:55 GMT

@cq_tech wrote:
It just bugs me that she thinks it's perfectly OK to steal somebody else's intellectual property for her own gain...

There's no "nice" way for me to say this, so I'm just going to be blunt...

Then why did you? Sorry, but most of the content and images in your listing are someone else's intellectual property.

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

chezzy — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:13:45 GMT

@cq_tech wrote:
That is EXACTLY what she said in her reply to me this morning! She reckons I should be flattered that she used my listing and couldn't understand why I'd be so angry but at least she has since revised her listing quite substantially, although she forgot to remove my camera's serial number from the Item Specifics. Oh, she also said that there's far more important stuff in the world to be worrying about than having somebody use my listing. Un-bloody-believable!

Many people just don't get it, they think if it appears online it is a free for all.

Plenty of good bedtime reading in the "Find an Answer' section on the Australian Copyright Council website

http://www.copyright.org.au/find-an-answer/

Re: Some grub stole my entire listing.

mbselections00 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:14:49 GMT

I was just reading this thread and checked - her listing has ended now !

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i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:17:09 GMT

@cq_tech wrote:
Now that she's changed her listing there won't be any comeback from eBay, but I thought you might like to see exactly what she wrote by way of an explanation. It just bugs me that she thinks it's perfectly OK to steal somebody else's intellectual property for her own gain...

Hi There,

I used the sell this item from your page so it pulled over most of the information. I used pictures from the internet which are the same as yours. I don't ebay very often I based my selling on your camera - you should feel complimented not annoyed. I am unsure of your anger but I am happy to change my add. Considering it is the same information on every website I don't see the drama.

Will update now. Hope you sell your items listed 🙂 I don't know that this is disgusting behaviour considering all else that is going on in the world.

Thanks

Sometimes I wonder what the world is coming to. Never mind, at least she was reasonably pleasant about it, given what I said in my initial message to her, but I believe I had every right to tell her that what she did was a disgusting act which I reported to eBay.

I'm surprised after that reply that she didn't throw in a phrase that makes me vibrate with anger......."first world problem". I get so annoyed when people have to throw that into a comment. It seems that people in first world countries can't be annoyed or upset about anything because there are starving people in the world.

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duck---dodgers — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:49:17 GMT

Judging by her reply she may not be aware of the rules.

If there is a choice between a conspiracy and a stuff-up always go for the stuff-up.

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padi*0409 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:53:07 GMT

Good to see the low-life's listing has gone CQ, I'd love to know if it was an eBay slap (doubt it) or a case of the seller doing the right thing (somehow doubt that too), guilt thing (more likely)

Hmmm, maybe the Treb shot was on target..............can't quite see from here in WA..............

sheeps love that phrase "vibrate with anger"..................