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Stupid offers.

thewishingmagic — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 23:39:26 GMT

Why do some buyers on Ebay send ridiculous low offers that are never going to be accepted.

You wouldn't go to a retail store and offer them a third of their advertised price and expect a positive outcome, so why on Ebay?

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phorum_junkie* — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 23:45:41 GMT

Why do you allow buyers to make silly offers? When I use Best Offer I use the auto refuse or accept function so never know if a low offer has been made.

There is actually a seller in the US who I used to buy from who regularly accepted offers that were less than half the full price.

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*sparklz* — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:13:39 GMT

Set the auto decline for any price less than you are interested in and then you do not even know if an offer was submitted thus relieving you of your concern for low offers 🙂

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joethenuts — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:25:11 GMT

everybody is different some sellers will only give 1% off some 20% some might say they have had the article for a whie and give you 80% off.

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digital*ghost — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 01:34:30 GMT

@thewishingmagic wrote:
Why do some buyers on Ebay send ridiculous low offers that are never going to be accepted.
You wouldn't go to a retail store and offer them a third of their advertised price and expect a positive outcome, so why on Ebay?

Because they don't have to look anyone in the eye (nor have anyone look back at them) when they do it, and there's always that 'just in case' thought, I suspect. Someone posted years ago that they decided to accepted a $1 offer on a much more expensive item just to see what would happen, and the buyer turned around and said they didn't actually want it... o_O

There are some special people out there who will do that at a retail store - I saw some dude try to bargain with the guy in Coles deli department, once, trying to get a discount if they bought all the prawns they had out on display.

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onekiwi0 — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 01:58:20 GMT

totally agree re stupid offers - but this topic has been on the threads before and made me realise what the others are saying, take the time to write in what you wouldn't accept.

on the previous thread someone actually mentioned there was kinda an unwritten rule as in its insulting to ask for more than was it 10% discount? or more? I can't remember....can anyone ...?

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padi*0409 — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:34:57 GMT

@digital*ghost wrote:

There are some special people out there who will do that at a retail store - I saw some dude try to bargain with the guy in Coles deli department, once, trying to get a discount if they bought all the prawns they had out on display.

Was the deli guy's response "Don't come the raw prawn with me mate" by any chance Digi ???????

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yeoldecoinco — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 04:06:44 GMT

I totally agree, this is a continuing problem.

On all my items, I have not one 'Make an Offer" lot listed.

Yet, emails come in virtually every day with the most crazy, low, less than I paid for it "offers" on material I have already priced at rock bottom most of the time.

How does one respond?

Do you:

A) Ignore and Delete and thus look to be a rude seller who doesn't reply.

B) Respond, pointing out that the costs of selling by the eBay/Paypal/Free Postage/GST Registered business model involves high fees and that they are taken into account when setting the price.

Niether approach seems very promising.

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digital*ghost — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 04:16:53 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
Was the deli guy's response "Don't come the raw prawn with me mate" by any chance Digi ???????

No, but he might have wished he did after - he actually just said "we aren't a cash n' carry, mate, our prices aren't negotiable".

I have a confession to make.... The "dude" in question was my BF at the time.... He was the kind of guy that would buy anything if it was cheap, and try to get anything else at a discount as well. One time he bought a box of denture cleaners because they were marked down, and when I asked why, he said "might come in handy one day". It was then I knew, I didn't want to be there for that day.

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repentatleisure1952 — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 04:23:28 GMT

@digital*ghost wrote:
@thewishingmagic wrote:
Why do some buyers on Ebay send ridiculous low offers that are never going to be accepted.
You wouldn't go to a retail store and offer them a third of their advertised price and expect a positive outcome, so why on Ebay?
Because they don't have to look anyone in the eye (nor have anyone look back at them) when they do it, and there's always that 'just in case' thought, I suspect. Someone posted years ago that they decided to accepted a $1 offer on a much more expensive item just to see what would happen, and the buyer turned around and said they didn't actually want it... o_O

There are some special people out there who will do that at a retail store - I saw some dude try to bargain with the guy in Coles deli department, once, trying to get a discount if they bought all the prawns they had out on display.

Hi dg !

Funny you should mention Coles !

I regularly bargain with our local Coles manager & have a fair degree of success.....mind you this is a small town & we do spend about $100k per year there. However I do the same with any b & m store no matter how big or small......40% off is quite common.

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joethenuts — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 04:41:25 GMT

$100K A year at coles lucky there prices are coming down down down ,

you must eat a lot wow

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digital*ghost — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 04:53:47 GMT

@repentatleisure1952 wrote:
Hi dg !
Funny you should mention Coles !
I regularly bargain with our local Coles manager & have a fair degree of success.....mind you this is a small town & we do spend about $100k per year there. However I do the same with any b & m store no matter how big or small......40% off is quite common.

Lucky 🙂 A manager would have more authority to negotiate, I suppose, but the checkout operators and deli assistants etc would get in trouble in most cases - I live in suburban Adelaide, too, so you can go to the same supermarket for years and rarely - if ever - see a manager let along get on a first-name basis. Some franchises are very strict about stuff like that, too, every penny has to be accounted for so an unauthorised discount could get an employee fired.

I might ask if I was buying something in bulk, I have done before (on eBay) where the package was for 20 of something and I was after 500, and even then I just asked if there might be a quanity discount if I bought that many, and if so what it would be, but I couldn't do it if just casual shopping at retail outlets. I'm more the type to just ask for a quote, then quietly decide if I'm prepared to pay that, and if not I move on to somewhere else. ._.

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cq_tech — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:05:24 GMT

@yeoldecoinco wrote:
I totally agree, this is a continuing problem.

On all my items, I have not one 'Make an Offer" lot listed.

Yet, emails come in virtually every day with the most crazy, low, less than I paid for it "offers" on material I have already priced at rock bottom most of the time.

How does one respond?

Do you:

A) Ignore and Delete and thus look to be a rude seller who doesn't reply.

B) Respond, pointing out that the costs of selling by the eBay/Paypal/Free Postage/GST Registered business model involves high fees and that they are taken into account when setting the price.

Niether approach seems very promising.

I have the same problem here with unsolicited offers on many of my items and I used to reply and apologise, telling them that the high cost of selling made it impossible for me to accept any less than the prices listed, which were already at rock-bottom anyway, until late last year when I rejected offers on 2 of my items, and the very next day they were purchased at the listed prices by this fellow, who then immediately trashed my DSRs (clearly out of spite) by marking everything at 2 or 3 and causing me to receive 2 defects. I complained to eBay but they weren't the least bit interested.

So now, if I receive any unsolicited offers, I ignore them and immediately place the sender's name on my BBL.

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thecatspjs — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:19:41 GMT

@thewishingmagic wrote:
Why do some buyers on Ebay send ridiculous low offers that are never going to be accepted.
You wouldn't go to a retail store and offer them a third of their advertised price and expect a positive outcome, so why on Ebay?

There is no one size fits all on eBay.

Its a marketplace afterall that offers much more diversity than any B&M store or shopping centre.

I have had some very low offers that I would not have normally considered, but have accepted at times to boost cash flow or clear older stock in a breakeven postiion.

I have knocked back many low offers, and the buyer has subsequently purchased the item at full price.

I have also had some chuckles from some of the offers made and accompanying comments

TBH I actually appreciate the ability to have make an offer on listings as well as the informal message bartering and I reckon have increased my sales through offers of various sorts by at least 10% on this ID over time.

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joethenuts — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:37 GMT

100% behind your post cat.

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lane-ends — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 10:47:50 GMT

Some serious buyers make low offers as they intend to use all three, and three attempts may get you move a little each time, so you end up giving 10% instead of the 5% as you may have with one offer.

For enquiries on other items just state this item is not currently subject to offers, you don't need to justify yourself

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expanded_perceptions — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 10:58:50 GMT

@onekiwi0 wrote:
totally agree re stupid offers - but this topic has been on the threads before and made me realise what the others are saying, take the time to write in what you wouldn't accept.
on the previous thread someone actually mentioned there was kinda an unwritten rule as in its insulting to ask for more than was it 10% discount? or more? I can't remember....can anyone ...?

Yes, I actually started a thread a month or two ago on the same topic! And the figure bandied around as an acceptable rule was indeed 10-20%, which I took on board.

As for the automatic decline value, for some reason that seems to disappear and have to be reset if the item is automatically relisted so not always possible to avoid ridiculous offers! Been offered about 33% of the buy it now on one item!!

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padi*0409 — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:30:29 GMT

@joethenuts wrote:
100% behind your post cat.

Can I presume that aside from cats obvious antipathy to the TBW (et al), you are ok with itl?

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repentatleisure1952 — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:56:53 GMT

@joethenuts wrote:
$100K A year at coles lucky there prices are coming down down down ,
you must eat a lot wow

Got a pub with a 100 seat bistro!

And yes I do !

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joethenuts — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:36:37 GMT

now that makes sence ,

i was thinking your breakfast was going to be like . 2 doz eggs ,1 kg bacon ,32 slices of toast . a box of corn-flakes 4 litres of milk, 27 pancakes , 2 litres of juice, and i small donut because you are cutting down on sugar ,mmmmmmmmmmmm

have a nice day