topic Re: Help please in Coins, Stamps, Collectables & Antiques

Help please

siddieswans — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:29:04 GMT

If you have some time on this wet and windy afternoon (in Sydney anyway).....

I have this item which has been turned into a brooch - but from what? The pin is marked Metal - I am guessing 1880-1920?

It is nicely made, looks like brass. As you can see stamped on the back are the letters THE??ULL & TURN SOLI???RE

The BOLD letters I am sure of; the first two ?? I think is all there is space for; the three ??? is just a guess; I am pretty sure the second last letter is R.

The only thing I could come up with is "The Pull & Turn ....." or perhaps one word "The??ull & Turn" - have Googled with no result. It's of no real value, a seller not a keeper, but I would like to identify it before I pass it on. As you may see in the centre behind the pin are two holes and a ground off metal shank which I assume attached it to something. Many thanks for any thoughts.

Re: Help please

bsal6160 — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:52:50 GMT

Siddie,

Look at this: http://www.hewnandhammered.com/hewn_and_hammered/2007/12/stuff-i-like-be.html

I think your item may have started life as a Button, Trench Coat possibly?

Re: Help please

bsal6160 — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 03:01:38 GMT

Or try here also

http://www.antique-collectible-buttons.com/antique-pictorial-buttons.html

Re: Help please

lakeland27 — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 03:06:05 GMT

the construction is like a button, the words are to do with the patent or gimmick maybe ? 'the pull and turn button' sort of a testimony to the inginuity of the maker or design at a guess ..advertising.

Re: Help please

siddieswans — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:15:08 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I would have thought that if it started life as a decorative button the maker's name would have been on it as well. I understand the advertising angle - that appears often on the back of items like batchelor's buttons, Sunday School brooches etc. However if it was "Turn & Pull" you would think I would be able to find it somewhere by Googling. And really, it doesn't look like the kind of button you would turn and pull.

Oh well, I guess it will join the myriad of things that I don't understand.

Again thanks.

Re: Help please

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:00:42 GMT

Maybe the two small ground off buts were the turn and pull bits of the button. Button jewellery is selling very well for the big sister, she is even finding the buttons and getting them made up to sell.

Re: Help please

islandretro — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 01:32:35 GMT

I don't know anything about the button - but the T hinge and C clasp are definitely Victorian, if that helps

cheers

Rae

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not_an_eloi — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 01:38:20 GMT

a cuff-link, centre originally 'ad a ball joint

one part of a two-part item.

under the solder may 'ave been two stud locatin' pins that

'ad to be slipped into a slot and turned to lock it into place.

Re: Help please

siddieswans — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:16:41 GMT

Sorry, should have said it was 3 cms across - too big for a cuff link. Thanks for all your ideas.

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2chappies — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 05:14:31 GMT

I'd say it's a brooch then.

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go-tazz — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:54:31 GMT

I'd say that it's had a centre pin in it which was removed/broke and they have made it into a brooch.

By having the centre pin it could have been attached to a cup,plaque or similar