topic Re: silver ring mark help please in Coins, Stamps, Collectables & Antiques

silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:22:02 GMT

we think 1893 london but have no idea lion then a face like a lion and a s

Re: silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:23:10 GMT

second mark any help would be great thanks

shane

Re: silver ring mark help please

siddieswans — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:41:36 GMT

Sorry I really can't make anything out of the first photo. I think the second one should be the key - 3 conjoined circles - I would say clover leaf except there's no tail. Now typically there should be a letter in each "circle" - you will be able to tell much better than we can. Is that a T at the top? See what you can make out.

Re: silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 03:53:54 GMT

yes its a clover that one we can see its top circle is (T) LOWER LEFT (&) LOWER RIGHT (C) OUTHER MARK IS LION STANDING

NEXT IS A LION FACE OR MONKEY AND THEN A S

Re: silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 03:55:52 GMT

IFi can date this ring i can link it ti the wife of the first priminister (barton) this is the key part and i just cant see it

Re: silver ring mark help please

siddieswans — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:26:58 GMT

A couple of things. Is the ring of sufficient quality - the marks seem quite rough. Do you mean ring as in jewellery? Unless it was something unusual (like a presentation piece, commission) english hallmarked silver rings in the late Victorian / Edwardian era are not that common - gold was really not very expensive. The Barton family would not have been poor. Is it something in a special shape, like a buckle ring?

Re: silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:54:28 GMT

the bartons were very poor spent most of the 1890s as bankrupts do yoy have a email so i can talk to you abou it and a bag full of items you seem to know about antiques by what you sell i think you now your stuff

Re: silver ring mark help please

siddieswans — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:57 GMT

I can be contacted through any of my for sale items - use ask seller a question.

Re: silver ring mark help please

bsal6160 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:15:01 GMT

The closest I can do is Charles Boyton and Sons, London, 1914.

Re: silver ring mark help please

backyard_computers — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:23:27 GMT

Try this link I have found it helpful in the past.

http://www.silverresearch.org/

or this one

http://www.langantiques.com/university/index.php/Category:Jewelry_Maker%27s_Marks

Re: silver ring mark help please

gem-boy-g — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:47:36 GMT

they don't really look like late 19th century British silver marks

Re: silver ring mark help please

backyard_computers — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:27:48 GMT

Ok I got bored and done some research.

I can't locate the maker's mark closest is the one already stated.

But for the other mark's

Lion standing = silver

monkey face (leopard's) = London

S = 1933

found these on this website hope it helps

http://www.silvercollection.it/englishsilverhallmarks.html

as you can see the order of the lion and leopard have a lot to do with the year.

Re: silver ring mark help please

4725shane — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 05:13:19 GMT

thanks guys