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bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

rangajoy — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 01:20:15 GMT

an auction i won ended at 18:57:06. i noticed that a bid was accepted by ebay at 18:57:06.

how is it possible that a bid can be accepted by ebay when the auction was ended?

i have yet to receive a satisfactory answer from ebay (i get spin and/or irrelevant statements made)

thx all

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

gutterpunkz05 — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 01:25:53 GMT

Am I missing something, from what you have posted, the final bid was made within the auction time frame

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

sandypebbles — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 01:29:11 GMT

I am missing it too?

Or why it matters when the OP say they won the auction?

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

kopenhagen5 — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 01:36:07 GMT

Some eBayers use a sniping program which will automatically bid in the last second or so if you are not at your computer.

But it depends on the internet speed whether a bid at the same time of auction end will go through or not.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

lyndal1838 — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 03:04:34 GMT

If the bid was accepted then the auction had not ended.

I usually do a snipe bid 5 seconds before the end but if the internet is slow it can show as 1 second before the end or even the exact end time. I have even missed out if the internet is slow.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

rangajoy — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 04:52:06 GMT

greetings

thx for your input

if an auction has ended, i dont understand how can a bid be accepted if the auction is ended.

i accept if the final bid was 18:57:05 - yes i can see how that is valid as the auction has not ended, but a bid at 18:57:06 occurs when the auction has ended and if an auction has ended how can a bid be lodged and accepted.

this is an issue about when an auction has ended and when it is open for bidding.

i am not having a go at sniping, as that is accepted as a legitimate method: this is all about the time when something occurred

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

lyndal1838 — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 05:16:31 GMT

But the auction does not end until the time ticks over to the next second.

In this case the bidder was lucky.....the bid was accepted before the time ticked over. A fraction of a second later and he would have missed out.

If you won the auction why are you so worried about it?

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

go-tazz — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 06:55:06 GMT

@rangajoy wrote:
an auction i won ended at 18:57:06. i noticed that a bid was accepted by ebay at 18:57:06.

how is it possible that a bid can be accepted by ebay when the auction was ended?

i have yet to receive a satisfactory answer from ebay (i get spin and/or irrelevant statements made)

thx all

Was your high bid your maximum that you put on earlier.

If someone used a sniping service that bid would have gone in the last second of the item finishing and may have

been posted as the :06

What does the automatic bid history say?

Without an item number it's only guesswork.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

rangajoy — Wed, 12 Feb 2020 01:13:03 GMT

thx all

it seems that the majorty of people are happy with ebay showing that an auction has finished at a specific time (ie 18:57:06) and the fact that ebay will show that it accepted a bid at the same time (18:57:06), despite the ebay communicating that the auction has ended.

if thats how it works so be it, i just found this very strange.

using the analogy of the auctineers gavel hitting the table at eg 18:57:06 signifying the end of bidding on that item, i find it stange that the auctioneer would then accept a bid a the same time ie18:57:06 ie when the gavel has hit the table.

imho when the gavel hits the table the auction has ended and any bids made simultaneously are not valid.

this is definitely not my experience in the real world, but it seems the rules ( ie the rules as communicated by ebay and information presented in relation to bidding by ebay) in ebay are unique to themselves and the information provided in the bidding history is insufficent to provided an informed understanding of what actually has taken place,

have a great day everyone

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

davewil1964 — Wed, 12 Feb 2020 07:03:51 GMT

@rangajoy wrote:
thx all

it seems that the majorty of people are happy with ebay showing that an auction has finished at a specific time (ie 18:57:06) and the fact that ebay will show that it accepted a bid at the same time (18:57:06), despite the ebay communicating that the auction has ended.

if thats how it works so be it, i just found this very strange.

using the analogy of the auctineers gavel hitting the table at eg 18:57:06 signifying the end of bidding on that item, i find it stange that the auctioneer would then accept a bid a the same time ie18:57:06 ie when the gavel has hit the table.
imho when the gavel hits the table the auction has ended and any bids made simultaneously are not valid.

this is definitely not my experience in the real world, but it seems the rules ( ie the rules as communicated by ebay and information presented in relation to bidding by ebay) in ebay are unique to themselves and the information provided in the bidding history is insufficent to provided an informed understanding of what actually has taken place,

have a great day everyone

Computers work in nanoseconds, though. It's just rounded up for human comprehension.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

rangajoy — Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:14:01 GMT

i understand computers work in nano seconds, my concern is transparency.

it wouldnt be too difficult to show exactly what is happening time wise re auctions.

call me an independent thinker, but i dont just accept that businesses always behave ethically. theres too many cases to the contrary.

in fact businesses are in the business of making money and not making friends.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

lyndal1838 — Sat, 15 Feb 2020 07:03:16 GMT

Oh for goodness sake....you won the auction so why all the angst.

Many times over the years I have seen auctions won with bids placed right on the very last second.

Either accept that it is correct or put the item number on here so others can see if anything looks suspicious.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

*tippy*toes* — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 05:20:45 GMT

@rangajoy wrote:
thx all

it seems that the majorty of people are happy with ebay showing that an auction has finished at a specific time (ie 18:57:06) and the fact that ebay will show that it accepted a bid at the same time (18:57:06), despite the ebay communicating that the auction has ended.

if thats how it works so be it, i just found this very strange.

using the analogy of the auctineers gavel hitting the table at eg 18:57:06 signifying the end of bidding on that item, i find it stange that the auctioneer would then accept a bid a the same time ie18:57:06 ie when the gavel has hit the table.
imho when the gavel hits the table the auction has ended and any bids made simultaneously are not valid.

this is definitely not my experience in the real world, but it seems the rules ( ie the rules as communicated by ebay and information presented in relation to bidding by ebay) in ebay are unique to themselves and the information provided in the bidding history is insufficent to provided an informed understanding of what actually has taken place,

have a great day everyone

Using the time you gave of 18:57:06, the actual finish time could be 18:57:0689752. If someone places a bid at 18:57:0671562, then it will be accepted as the auction was a millisecond from ending, therefore, still active. Look at it as the auctioneer lifting the gavel, and as they start to drop it towards the table, someone bids in that millisecond before it hits the table.

I'm not sure why you are worried when you won the auction.

Re: bids made and accepted by ebay when auction has ended

wide-world-of-stamps — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 08:54:57 GMT

Probably because the price went up at the last moment (nanosecond).