Boycott Bali

[idlewhile]

If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.

We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.

They have  ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.

I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.

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Australians have been executed in South Africa also........ however not in Indonesia.

[idlewhile]

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@grumpy*cat*rocks wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:
Idle while, which Australians have they executed before?

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Not in Indonesia, but in Malaysia, 2 Australians were hanged back in the 80's.

Barlow and Chambers were their names.

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1986/jul/07/fromthearchive

Two Australian heroin traffickers, Brian Chambers and Kevin Barlow, were hanged shortly before dawn today after a flurry of last-minute appeals to the Malaysian authorities for mercy or a stay of execution failed, prison officials said. The officials spoke to reporters through a peep-hole in the massive steel gates of Pudu gaol, Kuala Lumpur. Later an unmarked prison truck left the prison for the mortuary, witnesses in a crowd of some 200 reporters and onlookers said.

The two were the first Westerners to hang under Malaysia 's tough anti-drugs laws, which prescribe death for anyone convicted of having over 15 grammes of heroin.

Asked how he felt, Barlow's lawyer, Mr Karpal Singh, said: 'Pathetic, that it should have come to this stage. '

Chambers' mother said in a written statement: 'No one has the right to take someone else's life. It's inhumane. There is no more to be said, but he will be free forever. '

Chambers and Barlow, who was born in Stoke and who also held British nationality, were arrested on the resort island of Penang in November, 1983, with 180 grammes of heroin and given mandatory death sentences last July. An appeal failed last December.

The governor of Penang, the last source of mercy, rejected repeated Clemency pleas. He has never pardoned drugs peddlers.

Chambers and Barlow were hanged despite appeals for clemency from the Australian and British Prime Ministers and from the human rights group Amnesty International.

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Thanks for posting that, yes they were hanged in Malasia. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[striped-sox]

Agree with all you say!. Indonesia is a corrupt, barbaric country..Shame on them! When the next tsunami strikes, I hope Australia turns it back on them!
Will pray for the souls of these unfortunate men...

[creative*crisis]

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@striped-sox wrote:
Agree with all you say!. Indonesia is a corrupt, barbaric country..Shame on them! When the next tsunami strikes, I hope Australia turns it back on them!
Will pray for the souls of these unfortunate men...

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The trouble with that is it doesn't just punish the people you're angry at but a lot of innocents as well.

I don't want to see a time we become that uncaring, it would make us t worse than those that make those laws.

[icyfroth]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@striped-sox wrote:
Agree with all you say!. Indonesia is a corrupt, barbaric country..Shame on them! When the next tsunami strikes, I hope Australia turns it back on them!
Will pray for the souls of these unfortunate men...

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Yeah !  Let's turn our backs on 200,000 ordinary people who die.  Who cares.

Whatever your religion is with that attitude, I want no part of it, and I hope you don't try to convert anybody.

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What makes you think 200,000 will die if Australians stop holidaying in Bali? That's just ridiculous.

After initial adjustment, people will go about their lives as they did for centuries before Australians and other Western tourists invaded their shores.

They were always a much more populous nation than Australia and will continue to be so. And many of them resent us.

[polksaladallie]

No coffee yet?

[creative*crisis]

Probably none will die if we don't support tourism but in the event of a tsunami if we withheld aid certainly some could die as a result.

I don't want to be part of that

[idlewhile]

Have you ever been to Malaysia?? they do more than resent us, they hate us, I encountered this first hand and I will never go back.

As for Watta Joko, he is a week lily livered coward who can't even address the corruption in his country but he will be responsible for killing hundreds.

He signed the death warrants for these two men in December.

He is already percieved as  a failure by the very people who voted for him.

He is no "strong man" he is a weak opportunistic fraud.

Frankly I'm fed up with sucking up to Indonisia, taking their insult and they suck money out of Australia by the millions in aid, not to mention the ships and planes Gillard gave them to stop the people smugglers.

As for giving Indonesia money for natural disasters? I gave plenty but never again,

they spend billions on the military, they have one of the largest land armies in the world and we give them aid?

[idlewhile]

Do not go gentle into that good night

Dylan Thomas, 1914 - 1953

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

For all who are facing state sanctioned execution.

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Turn it up.....lol.