Election promises

[ladydeburg]

What is the future of elections if  truth in advertising is ignored.,  any election promise that has to be broken is a death knell for any government these days after the carbon lie.

Should political parties make any promises at all in election mode? and if not, how will we judge what their policies are? if a policy is found to be unworkable or unaffordable in changing circumstances, should the party be then subject to relentless attack  until government is unworkable.

The new political landscape we see now is very different to the landscape we saw under Hawke and Howard.

[ladydeburg]

Labor has raised the retirement age haven't they? 68 or something like that, to kick in in 16 years time. Nobody is forcing anybody to keep working and Labor can see the future as well as Libs so they are watching closely.

They will have to outlay their promises at the next election, they will have a full suite of election promises and they will know full well that if they don't live up to them they will suffer the same fate as the present gov.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Labor has raised the retirement age (which I don't agree with).The Libs want to raise it further.

[gleee58]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

You have to be working to retire !

Blogging on a forum is not work.

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Well you'd better get a job if you want to retire one day.

[ladydeburg]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:

Labor has raised the retirement age (which I don't agree with).The Libs want to raise it further.

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Do you know the age Labor raised it to? I think it's 68 but I'm not sure.

The govt has yet to get their policy passed and I can't see that happening so its a moot argument.

Nobody is going to be force to work till they're 70  just like they will not be forced to work till 68 under labor.

[ladydeburg]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@ladydeburg wrote:

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I can see you are a passionate Labor supporter and I respect that, but  the topic is about political campaigns and the promises made in them.

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If that's what you see you are seeing through a blinkered lens.

I am not a passionate Labor supporter.  Being turned off the conservatives by abbott and his merry band of selfish bully boys does not make one a passionate Labor supporter.  Did you not read my post before commenting?

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Then if you are not a Labor supporter who do you support? It's not the Libs obviously.

[cherry*135]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

You have to be working to retire !

Blogging on a forum is not work.

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Speaking from experience?

A forum is not a blog. People don't blog on a forum.

[cherry*135]

The pension age for men and women born from 1 July 1952 will be gradually increased from 65 to 67 years as set out in the table below.

Period within which a person was born Pension age Date pension age changes

From 1 July 1952 to 31 December 1953	65 years and 6 months	1 July 2017
From 1 January 1954 to 30 June 1955	66 years	1 July 2019
From 1 July 1955 to 31 December 1956	66 years and 6 months	1 July 2021
From 1 January 1957 onwards	67 years	1 July 2023

https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsibilities/seniors/benefits-payments/age-pension

[cherry*135]

Nobody is going to be force to work till they're 70  just like they will not be forced to work till  68  67 under labor.

If they aren't in paid employment, they will be eligible for the unemployment benefit until they are 67, which is currently $250approx per week.

Whereas if pension age remained at 65, those over 65,  out of work,  would be eligible for the aged pension which is much higher than the unemployment benefit.

[vicr3000]

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@am*3 wrote:

The pension age for men and women born from 1 July 1952 will be gradually increased from 65 to 67 years as set out in the table below.

Period within which a person was born Pension age Date pension age changes

From 1 July 1952 to 31 December 1953	65 years and 6 months	1 July 2017
From 1 January 1954 to 30 June 1955	66 years	1 July 2019
From 1 July 1955 to 31 December 1956	66 years and 6 months	1 July 2021
From 1 January 1957 onwards	67 years	1 July 2023

https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsibilities/seniors/benefits-payments/age-pension

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Yep, that was the time scale laid out by Labor.

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[softail-joanie]

Alice Cooper for (what is it?, prime minister?) of Australia- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4EnjRKVQw

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