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bluecat*dancing · ‎19-11-2014

Did anyone watch "First Contact" on SBS last night and/or the reaction on NITV? It's a three part series in which a group of people who have had no contact with Indigenous people spend time in various Aboriginal communities over a period of 28 days. I was shaking my head at the rudeness and ignorance of some of the participants.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-19/sbs-program-first-contact-sparks-social-media-frenzy/5901890

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gleee58 · ‎21-11-2014

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
I just can't understand the lack of empathy. One bad neighbour is just that.
I have empathy for ALL people who are at a disadvantage - white and black.

You are kidding yourself.

rabbitearbandicoot · ‎21-11-2014

@azureline** wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
lobs, I apologise to you. My comments were only made on the basis of the program we were commenting on. Did you also read my comments on all the other stolen children - it wasn't JUST Aboriginal children.

I still stand by my view, and the comments made by the Aborignal leaders on Insight, and that is :

The Aboriginal people have to make an effort too. It's not a one way street.

It is very encouraging to see the efforts that those groups have and still are putting into making things right, but as the women showed that had full strength alcohol banned, it was THEY that stood up and GOT IT DONE and not because of any funding or input from the Government. When asked why can that effort could not be duplicated around Australia, the Aboriginal speaker said "well, it's difficult because there are many tribes and clans out there". - WHAT DIFFERENCE SHOULD THAT MAKE? Was he saying that some tribes / clans would never accept interference from their women?

I think he said there are MANY.

Que? MANY / many

azureline** · ‎21-11-2014

All people will never be treated equally.

My sister in law had a dummy spit when my children were small, she thought they should all be treated equally.

My reply was, they are all at different ages and stages, there is no way that they can be treated equally.

There is no equality when you look at that program and see the struggles and know the history.

rabbitearbandicoot · ‎21-11-2014

@gleee58 wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
I just can't understand the lack of empathy. One bad neighbour is just that.
I have empathy for ALL people who are at a disadvantage - white and black.

You are kidding yourself.

Kidding myself? How can you POSSIBLY SAY THAT? You don't know me? I have a hemi-pegic wife and a birth brain-damaged son - how do you know what empathy I show to them and the dozens of people in similar positions that I have met over the last 24 years?

azureline** · ‎21-11-2014

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
lobs, I apologise to you. My comments were only made on the basis of the program we were commenting on. Did you also read my comments on all the other stolen children - it wasn't JUST Aboriginal children.

I still stand by my view, and the comments made by the Aborignal leaders on Insight, and that is :

The Aboriginal people have to make an effort too. It's not a one way street.

It is very encouraging to see the efforts that those groups have and still are putting into making things right, but as the women showed that had full strength alcohol banned, it was THEY that stood up and GOT IT DONE and not because of any funding or input from the Government. When asked why can that effort could not be duplicated around Australia, the Aboriginal speaker said "well, it's difficult because there are many tribes and clans out there". - WHAT DIFFERENCE SHOULD THAT MAKE? Was he saying that some tribes / clans would never accept interference from their women?

I think he said there are MANY.
Que? MANY / many

You possibly changed the meaning of what he was actually saying by your last comment..............WHAT DIFFERENCE SHOULD THAT MAKE? Was he saying that some tribes / clans would never accept interference from their women?

What he actually said was..............."well, it's difficult because there are many tribes and clans out there".

gleee58 · ‎21-11-2014

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
I just can't understand the lack of empathy. One bad neighbour is just that.
I have empathy for ALL people who are at a disadvantage - white and black.

You are kidding yourself.
Kidding myself? How can you POSSIBLY SAY THAT? You don't know me? I have a hemi-pegic wife and a birth brain-damaged son - how do you know what empathy I show to them and the dozens of people in similar positions that I have met over the last 24 years?

How can I say that? I read what you have been writting.

Regardless of how your wife and son are you have not shown any empathy with your comments about this program or aboriginal peoples.

lyndal1838 · ‎21-11-2014

Which is exactly what rabbit said. What is your point Az?

lionrose.7 · ‎21-11-2014

Lobs xxx

I read a book years ago called half a Sixpence I think it was called

, broke my heart.

Going to see if I can find that book again.

rabbitearbandicoot · ‎21-11-2014

@azureline** wrote:
All people will never be treated equally.

My sister in law had a dummy spit when my children were small, she thought they should all be treated equally.
My reply was, they are all at different ages and stages, there is no way that they can be treated equally.

There is no equality when you look at that program and see the struggles and know the history.

"All people will never be treated equally." and why not? You will note that I was talking about equality in how people were treated in the law / world etc. I was not talking about children / adults with special needs. And of course children of different ages have to be treated slightly differently in the way they are spoken to etc - but there shouldn't be favouritism in the treatment of a group of children.

No equality - that's right. As I said above, the law enforcement officer wants still more inequality - he said that Aboriginals should be treated differently in LAW and courts. They should be allowed to get away with things that others are punished for - does that seem fair and equitable to you?

rabbitearbandicoot · ‎21-11-2014

@gleee58 wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
I just can't understand the lack of empathy. One bad neighbour is just that.
I have empathy for ALL people who are at a disadvantage - white and black.

You are kidding yourself.
Kidding myself? How can you POSSIBLY SAY THAT? You don't know me? I have a hemi-pegic wife and a birth brain-damaged son - how do you know what empathy I show to them and the dozens of people in similar positions that I have met over the last 24 years?
How can I say that? I read what you have been writting.

Regardless of how your wife and son are you have not shown any empathy with your comments about this program or aboriginal peoples.

I certainly have. I have made a number of comments: like "I agree.it's terrible how the Aboriginals were treated" and I congratulated the ones in the film who have given their time to help, like the woment (grog ban), the grandmother who is looking after her grandchildren. and others.