on โ13-11-2019 02:23 PM
on โ13-11-2019 03:19 PM
I found the article to be yet again another whinge by somebody who has an axe to grind but offers no helpful suggestions on what to do about the issues. And personally I am sick and tired of all the whinging and crying going on about political, religious, gender etc issues by people who seem as if they just want a platform to attack the other side. One of the reasons so many issues have got out of hand is because we have become so petty in our outlooks. Perhaps we need to re-focus our attention on positive change, rather than getting off on crying about the negative stuff. Sorry if this offends anybody, but I am so bored with this aspect of society at the moment.
โ14-11-2019 10:01 AM - edited โ14-11-2019 10:03 AM
You know how it goes. Weโre a country of laid-back larrikins. Weโre a quirky mob who question authority, love giving the Establishment the middle finger and always question the status quo.-From the article
I remember way back in the 1970s, writing a report about the ethos of mateship etc.
My own belief is it came about because of the make up of society back in the early days.
Most of the convicts came from poverty, then many of the early settlers came over because of grinding poverty in their own areas.
If you read a book called 'Framework of poverty', it is really interesting as it lays out some of the attributes valued amongst different classes. Humour/physical fighting to resolve conflict, those are more likely to be valued amongst those brought up in poverty.
It's not a sure thing in every case, just a general guide.
So the larrikin with the sense of humour may well have been looked up to in the past. Paul Hogan rose to fame on just that sort of image. Some Australians might have had nostalgic feelings about that image.
But times change. We haven't really been that sort of society for over 150 years now. Why would anyone expect it? We're one of the most urbanised, multi cultural societies in the world.
As for the article, it is a bit weird. Why on earth would the author associate larrikinism with the introduction of pill testing?
He says today's society is 'conservative'. I have news for him. He's behind the times. Why does he think the irish orphan girl scheme from the late 1840s was so very unpopular here and stopped after only 2 years?
it's because of the rise of the conservative middle class here who deeply objected to any association with lawlessness or the dregs of society as they called them.
on โ14-11-2019 12:21 PM
It was not simply a conservative middle class that feared the Irish in the 1840s It was a conservative Protestant middle class, who feared that if the the Papists were allowed to gain a foothold in the country, we'd all eventualy end up under the thumb of the Pope. Sharia Law, anyone?
on โ15-11-2019 07:46 AM
Yes, I'm sure it was that too. But Earl Grey was trying to reintroduce transportation of convicts as well & that was never going to sit well with those trying to build up 'respectable' homes here. His schemes were not popular.
Since then of course, our society has undergone massive changes. I live in a suburb where the migrant numbers are at close to 60% I think. That is, people actually born in another country. The numbers would be a lot higher if you included children of migrants with a non British heritage.
It's peaceful enough here but what i noticed when working is that a lot of the families are quite religious one way or another. And I would say that on the whole, their views would be very much on the conservative side.
Not saying my suburb is typical, but just that a lot of migrants would never approve of liberal drug or other laws, so it's no good a writer getting upset & trying to say we aren't a bunch of lovable larrikins thumbing our nose at convention. No, we're not and haven't been for a while.
on โ25-11-2019 09:27 PM
Australia has changed drastically and for the worse. Weโre back in South Africa and itโs commonplace to see people smoking pot in the streets and I cannot see it causing any great harm.
The real problems seem to relate to alcohol abuse. Every day we see people absolutely rotten drunk getting in their cars and driving home. Itโs unsafe to walk in a lot of places so they drink and drive and nothing is in moderation