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@tezza2844 wrote:
@chameleon54 wrote:I respectfully beg to differ. S.A Liberals last term in govenment was unspectacular as it was constrained by the debt left by the previous Labor Government, ( think SA's state bank collapse which crippled finances for decades ) but did it not have the same level of gross incompetance and corruption we have seen from the present Labor Government.
I think that is amazing that every conservative Government (State or Federal) excuse for utter financial incompetence is to blame on the previous Labor Government. Can't these conservatives follow through with their grand election promises to fix everything as they are the great financial wizards. The present Federal government in 2013 claimed they were the financial experts and would bring Australia back to a surplus in a year or so, and now its shown itself to be completely incompetent in every area of financial management. I would say that the previous SA State Government was exactly the same-Completely incompetent.
The answer to this is to understand the repeating cycles that Australias political process goes through.
We elect a Labor governments that have strong social policies. Generally speaking. they spend a lot of money on social housing, ensuring the elderly are provided for, large public service to provide community services, money for the dole, support for those with dissabilities etc. etc.
It is all very worthwhile and important work. The problem is that after awhile, the bills pile up as Labor spend beyond the countries means and debt levels blow out. Once this spending and resultant debts reach crisis point, the economy starts to collapse and inevitable crisis occur, such as S.A,s state bank collapse or the current S.A crisis of not being able to afford enough hospital beds or adequate education services.
It is often at this point that the Liberals get elected. They come in and take the hard decisions to clean up the eccenomic messes left by Labor. They sell important public assests and slash spending on social policy to try to restore financial stability. Eventually the Liberals cut too much social spending and you end up with silly policies such as the unemployed having to apply for 20 jobs per week and volunteer work by unemployed people, not being recognised in eligability tests. The policy of lifting the elegability age for the pension to 70 is another example. This restores financial security but trashes social equity.
It is at this point that voters again turn to Labor to restore social equity to the system. .................And the cycle repeats... and repeats... and repeats.
The political cycle is tied to the global ecenomic cycle. At the moment, world economies are VERY fragile and at this part of the ecenomic cycle, Australia needs a Liberal government in power. This will change as the Liberals trash social equity to unacceptable levels. Although global economies are fragile at the moment, eventually financial sunshine will return and once again it will be time for Labor to return to power and repair the social damage, left by the Liberals. ( and send us back into crippling debt....
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@chameleon54 wrote:
@tezza2844 wrote:
@chameleon54 wrote:I respectfully beg to differ. S.A Liberals last term in govenment was unspectacular as it was constrained by the debt left by the previous Labor Government, ( think SA's state bank collapse which crippled finances for decades ) but did it not have the same level of gross incompetance and corruption we have seen from the present Labor Government.
I think that is amazing that every conservative Government (State or Federal) excuse for utter financial incompetence is to blame on the previous Labor Government. Can't these conservatives follow through with their grand election promises to fix everything as they are the great financial wizards. The present Federal government in 2013 claimed they were the financial experts and would bring Australia back to a surplus in a year or so, and now its shown itself to be completely incompetent in every area of financial management. I would say that the previous SA State Government was exactly the same-Completely incompetent.
The answer to this is to understand the repeating cycles that Australias political process goes through.
We elect a Labor governments that have strong social policies. Generally speaking. they spend a lot of money on social housing, ensuring the elderly are provided for, large public service to provide community services, money for the dole, support for those with dissabilities etc. etc.
It is all very worthwhile and important work. The problem is that after awhile, the bills pile up as Labor spend beyond the countries means and debt levels blow out. Once this spending and resultant debts reach crisis point, the economy starts to collapse and inevitable crisis occur, such as S.A,s state bank collapse or the current S.A crisis of not being able to afford enough hospital beds or adequate education services.
It is often at this point that the Liberals get elected. They come in and take the hard decisions to clean up the eccenomic messes left by Labor. They sell important public assests and slash spending on social policy to try to restore financial stability. Eventually the Liberals cut too much social spending and you end up with silly policies such as the unemployed having to apply for 20 jobs per week and volunteer work by unemployed people, not being recognised in eligability tests. The policy of lifting the elegability age for the pension to 70 is another example. This restores financial security but trashes social equity.
It is at this point that voters again turn to Labor to restore social equity to the system. .................And the cycle repeats... and repeats... and repeats.
The political cycle is tied to the global ecenomic cycle. At the moment, world economies are VERY fragile and at this part of the ecenomic cycle, Australia needs a Liberal government in power. This will change as the Liberals trash social equity to unacceptable levels. Although global economies are fragile at the moment, eventually financial sunshine will return and once again it will be time for Labor to return to power and repair the social damage, left by the Liberals. ( and send us back into crippling debt....
I do think that at the present moment the current Governments is doing a much better job of this than Labor could ever do, as well as dividing the public and creating an atmosphere of hate and fear with a very expensive opinion poll which cost a fortune has no actual relevance. About the only thing this exercise does is divide the public and create a smokescreen for its incompetent and inhumane management of the country
@tezza2844 wrote:@chameleon54 wrote:
@tezza2844 wrote:
The political cycle is tied to the global ecenomic cycle. At the moment, world economies are VERY fragile and at this part of the ecenomic cycle, Australia needs a Liberal government in power. This will change as the Liberals trash social equity to unacceptable levels. Although global economies are fragile at the moment, eventually financial sunshine will return and once again it will be time for Labor to return to power and repair the social damage, left by the Liberals. ( and send us back into crippling debt....
I do think that at the present moment the current Governments is doing a much better job of this than Labor could ever do, as well as dividing the public and creating an atmosphere of hate and fear with a very expensive opinion poll which cost a fortune has no actual relevance. About the only thing this exercise does is divide the public and create a smokescreen for its incompetent and inhumane management of the country
I,m glad we can agree on something.
I,ve felt all along that both Liberal and Labor should have co-operated with each other a little more and found a way to put this issue to the vote in parliment. Both sides have played politics rather than do the job they where elected and payed to do. The SSM vote has become a farce with the result being influenced and discredited by the controversial actions of interest groups, and the non binding nature of the vote. And yes, it has been a complete waste of tax payers money.
SSM: How cognitive ability shapes attitudes on equal rights for same-sex couples
Opinion
"Recently, Alice Campbell and I revealed the demographic traits associated with people expressing support for equal rights for same-... using the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) survey — a large, longitudinal survey that is representative of the Australian population.
My subsequent analyses of the HILDA Survey points to another important factor: cognitive ability.
Specifically, there is a strong and statistically significant association between higher cognitive ability and a greater likelihood to support equal rights between same- and different-sex couples.
This may shed some light on why those who stand against equal rights may not be persuaded by evidence-based arguments in the ongoing same-sex marriage debate."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-26/same-sex-marriage-cognitive-ability-link-hilda-survey/8984744
Just sayin' 
