on โ24-02-2016 08:33 AM
I just read this article from Sydney Morning Herald;
An independent review announced on Tuesday will advise Education Minister Simon Birmingham on whether the program's material is "age appropriate" by mid-March.
The issue dominated discussion in Tuesday's behind-closed-doors meeting of Coalition MPs and senators.
In the meeting, Liberal senator Cory Bernardi called for the $8 million program to be defunded because he was concerned it was being used to "indoctrinate children into a Marxist agenda of cultural relativism".
Senator Bernardi added he believed the program was prematurely sexualising children, saying he was concerned young people were being instructed how to hide their breasts or **bleep**. He told Fairfax Media he had collected 9500 signatures in a petition from "concerned Australians" in less than a week.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-orders-review-of-safe-school-...
Does anyone know much about the framework for this programme? I thought this safe schools programme was about eradicating bullying etc.
on โ24-02-2016 08:59 AM
@3ksandpj wrote:I just read this article from Sydney Morning Herald;
An independent review ...
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-orders-review-of-safe-school-...
Does anyone know much about the framework for this programme? I thought this safe schools programme was about eradicating bullying etc.
That's how they sell these things to the great unwashed. You hear 'safe schools' and you assume anti bullying workshops and other allied stuff. It turns out to be all about sexual orientation. It's like the multicultural tripe dished up. We were told that multiculturalism would enrichen the tapestry of the Australian way of life but it didn't turn out that way.
โ24-02-2016 09:19 AM - edited โ24-02-2016 09:19 AM
@village_person wrote:
@3ksandpj wrote:I just read this article from Sydney Morning Herald;
An independent review ...
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-orders-review-of-safe-school-...
Does anyone know much about the framework for this programme? I thought this safe schools programme was about eradicating bullying etc.
That's how they sell these things to the great unwashed. You hear 'safe schools' and you assume anti bullying workshops and other allied stuff.
Which is all good and I'm sure the framework covers all that. Of course it is hard sometimes, imo, to distinguish the difference between bullying and just kids being kids in the schoolyard..... But still it's something that needs to be addressed by all schools for sure.
It turns out to be all about sexual orientation.
I dont know that it is ALL about that. And I think it's important these days to make kids aware that bullying people for their sexual orientation is never on (so to speak) but teaching kids "how" to be transgender is really not necessary at all. I think schools need to tone down the whole sex ed thing. Sure teach them the basics about puberty, in high school though (because thats what they are going through at that age) primary schools dont need sex ed imo. And be done with it. Focus the kids attention on music or drama or dance or something that will cater for every person of any gender.
on โ24-02-2016 09:28 AM
on โ24-02-2016 09:33 AM
I know for a fact a school ran a program last year , which involved both the bullies and the victims and a child was given an award for participating in it the program was called S@@t Happens!
on โ24-02-2016 10:39 AM
on โ24-02-2016 10:47 AM
just on reading your first link 3Ks
is it compulsory or is it something schools can choose??
and I have to say 9,500 signatures on Bernadi's petition is not very many considering he's been campaigning hard on this for awhile. also from the public comments at the bottom of the article, it seems most support the program
VP who are the great unwashed?? the public, the shoolchildren or the teachers??
I wonder how much this investigation is going to cost us
on โ24-02-2016 06:46 PM
โ25-02-2016 02:24 AM - edited โ25-02-2016 02:27 AM
Well, we now know some things about some cultures which we find challenging to say the least and abhorrent to say the most.
Should we just be accepting of the "challenge" we might encounter and strive to deny or even to make apology for any "abhorrence" which we might feel?
Not all cultures are equal or deserving of considerations of equality.
Cultural relativism. . . If we accept that all cultures are equal (even relatively so) then that leads us down some rather darkened pathways, does it not?
Maybe there's a deep rooted fundamental reason behind why some particular culture's ideas don't attract more popular support where others' do ?
You want a safe school?
teach the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic and teach the lessons about the equality of all peoples no matter what their sex, their age or their religion.
Teach people to think for themselves. Step back with all your money and with all your religion, hoping to produce easily led little pawns in your cynical game.
When I was a kid a safe school to me meant one where the older children didn't harrass and bully the younger ones nor trip them up when they walked to their lessons.
A safety bonus would have been if my teacher didn't lean heavily on my shoulder digging his fingers in while asking me some obscure question which I couldn't answer because i was distracted by the pain.
A safe school is one where children can attend in safety, and will be taught the bascis of that which is required to survive and even to prosper in our modern day civilisation.
Multiculturalism.
but what if some cultural ideas require that women are not to be considered as the equals to men? Is that acceptable?
What sort of cultural identity do we ultimately aspire to?
on โ25-02-2016 08:58 AM
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
"We were told that multiculturalism would enrichen the tapestry of the Australian way of life but it didn't turn out that way."
A WASP might see it that way,but a lot of us don't.
So you enjoy FGM and female subjugation to name but two episodes of enlightenment.