The Appalling Asylum Seeker Conditions

[azureline**]

This is disgraceful and I can only hope the people who are in charge fix this asap.

An asylum seeker who was moved off Nauru to give birth is being locked up for 18 hours a day in a detention centre in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

The case of Latifa, a 31-year-old woman of the persecuted Rohingya people of Myanmar, has shocked churches and refugee advocates.

She was separated from her baby on Sunday, four days after a caesarean delivery, and has since been allowed to visit him only between 10am and 4pm in Brisbane's Mater Hospital. The boy, named Farus, has respiratory problems and needs round-the-clock medical care.

Latifa is confined to the Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation, 20 minutes away, where her husband and two children, four and seven, are being held.

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Latifa's husband, Niza, is not allowed to visit the child at all, according to people in daily contact with the family.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

[lakeland27]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-15/asylum-seeker-baby-brisbane-hospital-rejects-scott-morrison/50...

[polksaladallie]

Thank you LL.  I wonder if the mother had looked like this, would the same have happened.

There is very likely to be a detainee in the same centre in Brisbane who looks similar.  Aren't Englsh and USA cittizens among the worst visa overstayers?

[donnashuggy]

It just goes to show how out of touch he is. Does he have children himself?

[polksaladallie]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

It just goes to show how out of touch he is. Does he have children himself?

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No mention in W.  He does have teeth, though.

[donnashuggy]

He's also very religious without being very Christian

[azureline**]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
What did you picture then Azure that made you title this thread 'appalling asylum seeker conditions'. When I read that title I immediately imagined rats and disease and abuse of all kinds.

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Appalling conditions applied to the parents of this baby....... you know........... not being allowed to see the baby at all (father and siblings) not being able to remain at the hospital for the 8 days. (the mother)

No abuse............ no rats, no disease. Had it been, I might have titled it as such. (I will get some ideas next time, shall I so we all know what it means?)

No one knew how long the baby was going to be there. Luckily it was only 8 days.

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[azureline**]

A spokesman for the Immigration Minister yesterday said doctors at the hospital had advised that it is not common for mothers to stay overnight because of bed restrictions.

But in a statement to the ABC's AM program, the Mater Hospital suggested the mother should have been allowed to visit her child whenever she wanted.

The hospital says it encourages new mothers to be involved in the baby's care wherever possible to help establish a strong bond, and does not place restrictions on visiting hours.

"Once a mum is clinically well enough to go home, she is discharged from hospital, but is encouraged to be involved in her baby's care wherever possible to help establish and strengthen her bond with her baby," the statement said.

"Mater places no restrictions on women and they can visit their baby anytime where possible."

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Thank you LL.  I wonder if the mother had looked like this, would the same have happened.

There is very likely to be a detainee in the same centre in Brisbane who looks similar.  Aren't Englsh and USA cittizens among the worst visa overstayers?

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I saw a grown English lady turned away from the public hospital who had heart problems. She was forced to go to the private hospital as medicare didn't cover her. She was just a tourist, I assume here legitimately, but even though it was a suspected heart attack, she was denied medical treatment.

I also watched another child whose parents were in qld on holidays (don't know where from) denied admittance to the GCH public and forced to go up the road to the private hospital.

They wouldn't even see these people in accident and emergency in the public system, they had to go and pay $240 (plus tests etc) in the private system.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

I envy you so much, azure, that your experience of human suffering is so limited that you're able to find this situation to be such an appalling outrage of human rights causing irretrievable long term damage. Compared with human pain suffered every day, which isn't political enough to be newsworthy,to me this story is a positive outcome in an awkward situation. I am not being facetious when I say I envy you. It must be wonderful not to have your ideals shattered by the very harsh realities of too many people's lives.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
What did you picture then Azure that made you title this thread 'appalling asylum seeker conditions'. When I read that title I immediately imagined rats and disease and abuse of all kinds.

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Appalling conditions applied to the parents of this baby....... you know........... not being allowed to see the baby at all (father and siblings) not being able to remain at the hospital for the 8 days. (the mother)

No abuse............ no rats, no disease. Had it been, I might have titled it as such. (I will get some ideas next time, shall I so we all know what it means?)

No one knew how long the baby was going to be there. Luckily it was only 8 days.

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seriously? They bought the whole family here whilst in detention!

Did they relocate even me and make provisions for my accommodation? far less my entire family! The only reason both of us could get to our daughter is because we footed the bill, and at times, including when she was a long way from home, we had to choose which partent would be with her!

yes, no one knew how long the baby was going to be there (though I suspect the hospital and doctors would have had an educated guideline) so no preparations were made before the birth as it was not a situation ever encountered before...

How do you know that had it have been expected to last more than a few days that preparations weren't being made to make things more accessable?

The man and the family are in detention! They are not free citizens!

The baby was only there for 4 days whoilst access of the mother was restricted (probably just because of logistics and red tape, not any nefarious reasons to deprive her of anything) The first 4 days the mother was there 24/7 until such time as she was no longer a patient!

and LMAO at the reference to the stolen generation back there - hahahahaha - no one was trying to take this baby away from it's mother, short term or long term, and certainly, the access was not being restricted because someone thought the baby would be "better off" with different parents , it seems like a lot of effort was gone to to allow as much access as possible at short notice....