The Irani Way...

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Mother saves life of son's killer in Iran

Murder and several other crimes are punishable by death in Iran.

But under the country's interpretation of Islamic laws in force since the 1979 revolution, a victim's family has the right to spare a convict's life in return for financial payment.

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I agree with the Death Penalty for some crimes.

I'm not sure that I like the idea of a victim's family being able to grant immunity, and definitely not for money.

I think that provides an opportunity for extortion, blackmail and corruption and potentially pardons some of society's most detestable beings whilst others may not be able to raise the funds to pay off the hangman.

[lakeland27]

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@diamond-halo wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

well the guardian story makes no mention of money. i'm not saying money wasn't involved as we don't know, i'm saying the guardian journalist didn't feel the need to zero in on the alleged financial aspect of the story and nor do i.

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ok, forget about the actual stiory for a sec, and focus more on the actual law that makes provisions for it.

This wasn't meant to be political or representative of a newspaper or whatever.

This particular paper highlighted an aspect of Sharia Law that i found surprising as well as unjust.

Say we both had kids who committed the same crime.

Now say one of us could rasise/generate enough money to seek immunity for their child, but the other couldn't.

How is that a just or equitable law?

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 well it isn;t  . but a QC is something few westerners can afford too. young oscar looks well represented. remember OJ simpson too, would a black man with no money have walked ? the point seems moot. money is an advantage in most legal systems.

[2106greencat]

but a murderer is set free, to work and provide for the family of his victim, and he murders again - what price is put on the second victim ? or is that not a consideration ?

[lakeland27]

i'm not advocating it or claiming it without flaw greencat. nobody is right in this discussion. you make a few very good points and i don't know the answer.

[polksaladallie]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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 well it isn;t  . but a QC is something few westerners can afford too. young oscar looks well represented. remember OJ simpson too, would a black man with no money have walked ? the point seems moot. money is an advantage in most legal systems.

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people are massively overrepresented in the criminal justice system of Australia.

Aboriginal people represent only 3% of the total population, yet more than 28% of Australia’s prison population are Aboriginal.

I agree.  Does anyone think these statistics ^^^ have nothing to with money?

[2106greencat]

aboriginal ?

Irani ?

sorry you have lost me ..

[lakeland27]

 its about the role of money and advantage under law.

[icyfroth]

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@2106greencat wrote:

but a murderer is set free, to work and provide for the family of his victim, and he murders again - what price is put on the second victim ? or is that not a consideration ?

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Well if he murders again...then he's up for the next death penalty. Then I guess it's up the next wronged family to "forgive" him or let him get the chop.

[polksaladallie]

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@2106greencat wrote:

aboriginal ?

Irani ?

sorry you have lost me ..

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Read post 31, I replied to that.

[lakeland27]

i accompanied a friend to court as support about twenty odd years ago. the prosecution merely presented the evidence against him, but his lawyer instructed him that he would ask him some questions in the court. the lawyer said to him that the entire purpose of this exercise was for the judge to hear his rather polished middle-class accent and be aware of which school he had attended.. so the judge would think ''he's one of us''  as the lawyer considered it an advantage which it was.

[icyfroth]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

i accompanied a friend to court as support about twenty odd years ago. the prosecution merely presented the evidence against him, but his lawyer instructed him that he would ask him some questions in the court. the lawyer said to him that the entire purpose of this exercise was for the judge to hear his rather polished middle-class accent and be aware of which school he had attended.. so the judge would think ''he's one of us''  as the lawyer considered it an advantage which it was.

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Was this in Iran?