Unpaying bidders

[1artychic]

can ebay stop a member from continually buying but not paying

[phorum_junkie*]

Believe it or not there were just as many complaints on the boards about non payers back in the days when sellers could leave negs, I have not actually had any rise in the percentage of non payers over the last decade in fact percentage wise it is probably less since we had the ability to block repeat offenders.

I only have to look at my log to see how many people have been prevented from bidding on my items to see how effective the strike and block system is and it would be even more effective if all sellers used it instead of wasting time giving byers extra pos feedback that most sellers are never going to see.

[*crikey*mate*]

i found that the other day - I'd only had 2.

I've had a fair few really slow payers and also some who payed once I opened up a dispute, but I think I've only had 2 who never paid me.

FTR, one of those people was a seller who posts on these boards! They also had things for sale at the same time as they purchased my item from me.

[donnashuggy]

These are my percentages for the last 3 months, they used to be around 1-2 %

7.4 % 4.9 %  6.7%

[donnashuggy]

Out of 119 Unpaid item reminders sent in August 76 received strikes and never paid.

I use the unpaid item assistant so it doesn't take me any time, it all happens automatically, it is only when I look at sales reports I notice it.

[1artychic]

thanks everyone. at least she wont get me again

[springyzone]

Annie said

Problem is, it's easy to open a new hotmail account then register a new Ebay account and they keep on doing it.

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It's easy to open a webmail account for sure.

But I thought account holders also had to register for a paypal account, and to do that, you have to give over credit card details, or maybe bank account numbers?

And they can't be the same as some other user name?

I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall having trouble trying to start up a new ebay account years ago because of the credit card issue-it was already listed for another user.

Things may have changed since those days though, I have no idea what the regulations are now.

But I just thought if someone did get banned and tried to re-register under a new name, then a ban on that paypal account could make it harder for them.

I take ghost's point though-ebay is in business for themself, not anyone else.

They need to watch it though, there is a lot of competition out there these days, not all of it auctions, but a lot more buying & selling websites people can go to if they get too fed up.

[springyzone]

Problem is, it's easy to open a new hotmail account then register a new Ebay account and they keep on doing it.

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It's easy to open a webmail account for sure.

But I thought account holders also had to register for a paypal account, and to do that, you have to give over credit card details, or maybe bank account numbers?

And they can't be the same as some other user name?

I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall having trouble trying to start up a new ebay account years ago because of the credit card issue-it was already listed for another user.

Things may have changed since those days though, I have no idea what the regulations are now.

But I just thought if someone did get banned and tried to re-register under a new name, then a ban on that paypal account could make it harder for them.

I take ghost's point though-ebay is in business for themself, not anyone else.

They need to watch it though, there is a lot of competition out there these days, not all of it auctions, but a lot more buying & selling websites people can go to if they get too fed up.

[tstore]

eBay still makes money from non payers. As a store holder you do not get credited for insertion fees. Also many new sellers are not aware of the procedures and may never open an unpaid item dispute so they never get FVFs

[digital*ghost]

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@springyzone wrote:

Annie said

Problem is, it's easy to open a new hotmail account then register a new Ebay account and they keep on doing it.

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It's easy to open a webmail account for sure.

But I thought account holders also had to register for a paypal account, and to do that, you have to give over credit card details, or maybe bank account numbers?

And they can't be the same as some other user name?

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Each eBay account just requires a different email address, and there's no requirement to confirm or register anything else. (Linking a PayPal account or putting a credit card on file acts as a verification of identity, and will bypass the block on members who have not been phone verified).

If an eBay account is restricted, the restrictions are meant to apply across all accounts, so if a buyer has restrictions placed on them by eBay and they open a new account with the same name & address details, the same limitations will (or should) apply. If an account is deregistered, they should not be able to open a new account with the same details, or if they do, the system should soon pick up on it.

Strikes don't work the same way, unfortunately, and I think that they should. Any strikes earned with one account should automatically apply to all accounts in that name, I also think that if a seller adds an ID to a BBL, it should be a blanket block on all associated IDs. It's a breach of policy to use another ID to circumvent blocks, but not only do eBay not take any proactive steps to enforce that policy when they could, in the past members have been advised by eBay Live Help reps to actually open a new ID to purchase an item from a seller when they were blocked (manually) by that seller.  

I agree that eBay should take into consideration one of the best ways to keep buyers here is to ensure the site is populated with good and happy sellers...but a lot of their changes aren't particularly conducive to that, though some of the newer policies seem to indicate it might be slowly dawning on them. 

[digital*ghost]

Problem is, it's easy to open a new hotmail account then register a new Ebay account and they keep on doing it.

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It's easy to open a webmail account for sure.

But I thought account holders also had to register for a paypal account, and to do that, you have to give over credit card details, or maybe bank account numbers?

And they can't be the same as some other user name?