i do know there are more than 2 orions operating now of course.

rabbitt's not bothered about a destination for dem pesky boaties.

they'll turn the boats around and dance on the decks as they watch 'em drown

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@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Maybe the navy could commandeer those boats and use them.They're probably up to the same standard as the Collins class subs.

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 thats the next big thing, subs like the cartels use... dozens of them buzzing back and forward

 its also quite cunning, the idea of having levels of command from the minister over the military appointee down to the officers and ranks. if it fails, replace and place the blame on that person below without wearing any of it yourself. to me this indicates a lack of confidence in the policy .. having inbuilt blame-shifting as part of the strategy... its also unfair to the sailors and officers.