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on 30-08-2013 02:12 PM
@poddster wrote:It seems like just another war that the US has to have to keep its economy buoyant and clear the streets of thugs by turning them into cannon fodder in another country.
Anyone ever wondered if perhaps the US may have had a hand in the use of chemical weapons as part of a false flag covert op?
There's talk that the US is supporting the rebels by supplying arms and ammunition. Assad says that the rebels staged the attack in order to frame the government.
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on 30-08-2013 03:11 PM
@monman12 wrote:
I do wonder what anti-Maccas people would have thought of John Curtin's decision to invite the Americans to use Australia as their Pacific base.
Probably no different to what they thought of this:
Up to 2,500 US Marines will be stationed in Australia by 2017 under a new agreement announced by Prime Minister Julia Gillard and US president Barack Obama.
Ms Gillard confirmed the deployment during a joint press conference with Mr Obama only hours after he touched down in Canberra on his whirlwind visit.
She says 200 to 250 Marines will be stationed in Darwin for training from next year, with numbers building up to 2,500 over the next five years.
"It is a new agreement to expand the existing collaboration between the Australian Defence Force and the US Marine Corps and the US Air Force," she said.
Our alliance has been a bedrock of stability in our region, so building on the alliance through this new initiative is about stability.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard
"What this means in very practical detail is from mid-2012 Australia will welcome a company-sized rotation of 200 to 250 Marines in the Northern Territory for around six months at a time.
"Over a number of years we intend to build on this in a staged way."
The US Air Force will also be given more access to Australian bombing ranges and training facilities in remote areas of the Northern Territory.
The announcement by the two leaders comes as Australia and the US mark the 60th anniversary of the ANZUS alliance, the central security agreement between the two countries.
Click here for whole article: Obama Visit 2011
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30-08-2013 03:15 PM - edited 30-08-2013 03:17 PM
They've left any useful intervention far too late anyway. If there ever was a time to go in, it was early on when the opposition was a moderate and cohesive, force, capable of forming a democratic government. Now it is a hotchpotch of splinter groups, at odds with each other and quite likely dominated by Islamist extremists.
My prediction is that If Assad falls, the result will be a brutal scramble for power and Syria will be left in a worse state than she is in now.
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on 30-08-2013 03:22 PM
very much like what's happening in Egypt.
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on 30-08-2013 03:27 PM
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on 30-08-2013 03:53 PM
did you read the first part of my post John?
I notice you didn't make a comment on that.
The US is good at one thing at least, manufacturing war and weapons it is caught in an iteration loop with a slight positive feedback.
The US economy depends on it in one way or another. either outright war or some other means of population control.
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on 30-08-2013 05:25 PM
david letterman on 'is programme, last night: "so we should just go and kill him"
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on 30-08-2013 05:33 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:They've left any useful intervention far too late anyway. If there ever was a time to go in, it was early on when the opposition was a moderate and cohesive, force, capable of forming a democratic government. Now it is a hotchpotch of splinter groups, at odds with each other and quite likely dominated by Islamist extremists.
My prediction is that If Assad falls, the result will be a brutal scramble for power and Syria will be left in a worse state than she is in now
How come we can see that problem arising, but it somehow escapes the people in power? Haven't they learned anything from Iraq?
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 30-08-2013 06:37 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:They've left any useful intervention far too late anyway. If there ever was a time to go in, it was early on when the opposition was a moderate and cohesive, force, capable of forming a democratic government. Now it is a hotchpotch of splinter groups, at odds with each other and quite likely dominated by Islamist extremists.
My prediction is that If Assad falls, the result will be a brutal scramble for power and Syria will be left in a worse state than she is in now
How come we can see that problem arising, but it somehow escapes the people in power? Haven't they learned anything from Iraq?
Or perhaps they can see it quite clearly, and rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect.
I don't for one minute, believe those at the top have a mindset anything like us mere mortals, with totally different agendas in mind, than harmonious world peace.
*hint : world domination - easier to achieve while the targets are in complete disarray*
Yes, I have an opinion. No you don't have to agree with it. Yes I do have a right to it.
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30-08-2013 06:43 PM - edited 30-08-2013 06:43 PM
I am sure Assad being aligned with Putin has a lot to do with it ![]()
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .