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on 01-09-2013 06:10 PM
Okay, so the consensus from those that appear to be Labour supporters is don't have an unPC opinion on anything relevant.
You got what you asked for last time, how'd that work for you? Is it possible that others want something different?
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on 01-09-2013 06:13 PM
The Australian S E X party is looking good at the moment.
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01-09-2013 06:37 PM - edited 01-09-2013 06:39 PM
nevynreally wrote:
am*3 wrote:
You mentioned everyone, not just politicians. Are you suggesting only politicians should be able to say what they think, not be PC?
Yes.
This is a thread on what Abbot said.
Seriously, I expected more from you.
I don't agree with your point.. that politicians especially (or anyone else) should not bother with being PC when speaking.
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on 01-09-2013 06:40 PM
Just because posters have no time for Tony Abbott or the LNP and their policies, doesn't make them Labor supporters.
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on 01-09-2013 06:42 PM
Okay, so lets expect politicians to lie to the public about how they really feel about things. Personally, I don't care what a doctor thinks about things as long as they do their job, same for teachers.
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on 01-09-2013 08:10 PM
@youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit wrote:
Im hoping this will be seen to be on topic...Im just wondering how a politician - perhaps soon to be the Prime Minister of Australia, could voice such an opinion?
did you feel the same way when Julia Gillard expressed an opinion on this topic and agreed with Tony Abbott in saying that some Australians find the burqa confronting? Why exactly should she not have voiced such opinion? What was that Tony Abbot say exactly? Some reports say that he said he found the burqa confronting and others that he thought it could be. No different from Julia Gillard's opinion.
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01-09-2013 08:23 PM - edited 01-09-2013 08:25 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit wrote:
Im hoping this will be seen to be on topic...Im just wondering how a politician - perhaps soon to be the Prime Minister of Australia, could voice such an opinion?
did you feel the same way when Julia Gillard expressed an opinion on this topic and agreed with Tony Abbott in saying that some Australians find the burqa confronting? Why exactly should she not have voiced such opinion? What was that Tony Abbot say exactly? Some reports say that he said he found the burqa confronting and others that he thought it could be. No different from Julia Gillard's opinion.
come on Meep, you are an intelligent poster .
Julia Gillard (who btw is not in the running to be our next PM and campaigning now) said that some Australian's found it confronting ..
Tony Abbott admitted that he was one of them..and said more ... surely you are able to see the difference without it being explained?
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has confessed to finding the burqa "confronting" while defending Liberal candidate Ray King for describing the Islamic attire as a "sign of oppression".
Asked whether he supported the statements by Mr King, who drew a link between the burqa and criminality at a fund-raiser, Mr Abbott admitted he found it "a very confronting attire".
"Frankly, it's not the sort of attire that I would like to see widespread in our streets," Mr Abbott told reporters on Saturday, while campaigning in Queensland.
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on 01-09-2013 08:57 PM
While there are differing reports, I will not know what Tony Abbot actually said.
BTW - Ms Gillard made that statement shortly before she became the PM.
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01-09-2013 11:04 PM - edited 01-09-2013 11:08 PM
The burqua is the full face covering and people feel uncomfortable when faced with people wearing it because it hides facial expression, a very important (non verbal) means of communication.
Moustaches and luxururient beards do the same thing for men. They hide the upper lip and cover unconscious body-language.
We feel uncomfortable in the presence of people whose intentions we cannot intuit, and face coverings worn by other people but not by us, put us at a communications-relationship disadvantage.
We may not realise this consciously, but this is what is responsible for our feelings of disomfort and disquiet when we meet those masked people on the street or in the shops or even socially.
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on 02-09-2013 12:14 AM
If we are simply passing by a woman wearing a burqa in the street or other public place, we have no intention of communicating with,same as we don't intend to communicate with all the other people out and about we pass by..so what does it matter if we can't see their faces if we are just passing them by?