so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

isn't that kinda - ????

they're all animals.

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?

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@crikey*mate wrote:

so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?

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Well you'd be surprised how many care about the welfare of rats too, I certainly do. There are whole websites devoted how to 

get rid of them humanely.  And fish too -    many care how they feel pain.  

It's just that this is a thread about  chickens, and not covering the whole animal kingdom. 

And no, don't ask  me how I know fish feel pain, lol, but I believe they do. .

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@crikey*mate wrote:

so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?

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They are not indigenous to Australia,Crikey, and they rare a real threat to our native fauna. I could - and have - killed rats, but I wouldn't keep them, shut up in a tiny cage for years on end. 

Hens in cages are being farmed for a profit.

Rats are pests,no one invited them to come live under their hen house.

I bet Flashy would.

She likes rats.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@crikey*mate wrote:

so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?

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They are not indigenous to Australia,Crikey, and they rare a real threat to our native fauna. I could - and have - killed rats, but I wouldn't keep them, shut up in a tiny cage for years on end. 

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Ok, fair enough

I've never killed a rat, set baits and that though, and I have no problem with it.

My perception of a rat is that they are dirty and smelly and spread disease and contaminate food. That may be false, but that is my perception of them and how I can justify killing them.

So what you are saying is that it's ok to kill animals if they are a threat? lots of animals are a threat, even native ones. (are chickens native to Australia?)

It's not the rats' fault that they are an introduced species, and the little baby rats aren't migrants, they're now Australian too.

Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?

Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?

That may well be true - I can only speak for myself.

They do use rats for testing new prescription drugs on (and fluoride overdoses LOL) and some cosmetics on don't they? So there is a bit of animal cruelty.

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@am*3 wrote:

They do use rats for testing new prescription drugs on (and fluoride overdoses LOL) and some cosmetics on don't they? So there is a bit of animal cruelty.

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true, I didn't think of that.

I associate people's outrage for animal testing with bunny rabbits though, never occured to me that people would be worried about rats. and all the media and advertising around it always has really cute animals, like bunny rabbits (aren't they an introduced species too and a pest?) or little cute fluffy thing, harp seals etc.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?

 

That may well be true - I can only speak for myself.

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ok, so you can justify killing rats because they are a threat to our fauna and flora, is that right?

really not sure how that relates to chickens in cages though... sorry - (i'm shaking my head at myself)

I dunno, you source your eggs from what seems like a cool place.

I'm actually more thinking of how people comparing the caged chickens with ones still packed in and bred for eggs - they're justifying a level of suffering to make themselves feel better because it doesn't really upset them enough to abstain from consuming eggs altogether.

the chickens still suffer. those conditions are just not natural.