Re: How can you afford it?

*pepe · ‎10-10-2013

all threads are secretly about you, you just need to read each post backwards, skipping every 3rd word.

clair.de.lune · ‎10-10-2013

I knew it!

monman12 · ‎10-10-2013

FN: "I know that and the point remains that the old system would not be suitable today. I don't use XP either.

Why the obsession with using old systems that don't work with all today's applications?"

What a lack of knowledge that indicates FN, my comments were apropos MSDOS and the fact that XP contains a command-line interpreter that allows a hands-on control of a HDD which is worlds apart from blindly "using a system ( OS?) and user applications.

Recently a family member returned from 3 months in Antarctica with a crashed laptop HDD running WIN7. It was not "fixable" according to the Antarctic IT division. I fired up a superb years old DOS disk check/repair program on my "ancient" PC running XP using "Command-com" (not that that matters) and using a 2.5" HDD adapter ran the crashed HDD as :D. 17 hours later the program finished running, the crashed DD ran and only 3 files were "lost"

FN, I suspect that a Maserati is not what you need ( still waiting for an answer to that) and you have problems with a manual DOS, preferring an automatic!

poddster · ‎10-10-2013

I have no doubt that the ones proporting to be avant garde in IT and loudly singing the praises of the "new technology" lack knowledge of the background foundations on which the "new technology' has been built

Not only in IT itself but all the supporting knowledge base that is a requirement fully understand IT such as electronics.

I guess that is one of the prices of "progress"

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

i-once-was-bump · ‎10-10-2013

@freakiness wrote:
remember when a 56K modem was considered overkill?

i did some of my best work on a VAX / VMS system and I went really outlandish with my personal PC and had 8 mb of ram when the rest of the world only had 1 or 2 mb and a 320 mb HDD and I loved DOS because it worked without fail but sometimes I would have a 64 K total crash but that was more to do with poor programming and having an eternal loop in a programme.

cherry*135 · ‎10-10-2013

@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
Telstra still has a monopoly in some areas. We wanted to try Optus 2 years ago which had far better deals at the time and our address is in the Telstra grid so Optus couldn't take us.

Yes, there are a lot of areas like that. We had Optus service then they wouldn't take anymore Telstra resale customers and offered any Optus customers to get out of the contracts with no penalty, they were so keen to get rid of them. I stayed with Optus but the broadband plans ADSL & landlines were at a high cost (not as high as Telstra though).

cezm - noted you only live 4km from a city... I don't live far from a city either (ADSL2 there).

Our exchange was going to be upgraded about six years ago to ADSL2 and it was scrapped also.

Poor service, no ADSL2, high plan costs isn't just happening in a few remote areas.

*elizabeths-mum* · ‎10-10-2013

You make it sound like they didnt want us, where Optus managed to sound deeply regretful.

freakiness · ‎10-10-2013

@monman12 wrote:
FN: "I know that and the point remains that the old system would not be suitable today. I don't use XP either.
Why the obsession with using old systems that don't work with all today's applications?"

What a lack of knowledge that indicates FN, my comments were apropos MSDOS and the fact that XP contains a command-line interpreter that allows a hands-on control of a HDD which is worlds apart from blindly "using a system ( OS?) and user applications.

Recently a family member returned from 3 months in Antarctica with a crashed laptop HDD running WIN7. It was not "fixable" according to the Antarctic IT division. I fired up a superb years old DOS disk check/repair program on my "ancient" PC running XP using "Command-com" (not that that matters) and using a 2.5" HDD adapter ran the crashed HDD as :D. 17 hours later the program finished running, the crashed DD ran and only 3 files were "lost"

FN, I suspect that a Maserati is not what you need ( still waiting for an answer to that) and you have problems with a manual DOS, preferring an automatic!

Yes, I did answer your irrelevant question about a Maserati, about 2 pages back.

Frankly I don't care about your patching of old computers using MSDOS prompts. The point is that our data usage is ever increasing and our demands on the old network are too.

As I said the old DOS computers of 20 years ago do not perform the tasks we require of them today.

freakiness · ‎10-10-2013

@i-once-was-bump wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
remember when a 56K modem was considered overkill?
i did some of my best work on a VAX / VMS system and I went really outlandish with my personal PC and had 8 mb of ram when the rest of the world only had 1 or 2 mb and a 320 mb HDD and I loved DOS because it worked without fail but sometimes I would have a 64 K total crash but that was more to do with poor programming and having an eternal loop in a programme.

That may be the case but do you want everyone to use the same system today?

cherry*135 · ‎10-10-2013

@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
You make it sound like they didnt want us, where Optus managed to sound deeply regretful.

They fibbed to you. It wasn't worth it dollar wise to them, esp in areas with small population.

I used to get a free 12mth magazine subsription from Optus, if I renewed our broadband contract (for 2 years running this happened), then they start writing letters saying basically we don't want you anymore.