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on 15-11-2013 12:52 PM
This thread has been well named.
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on 16-11-2013 09:15 PM
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:Serving alcohol to young children? Watering it down?
You might have been serving alcohol to a child who has the "Alcoholic Gene".
Why give children the taste for it at a young age?...... For what purpose?
Giving alcohol to children is illegal for good reasons.
Alcoholic Gene?
Bahahahahahahaha......are you trying to pulls someone leg?
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on 16-11-2013 09:17 PM
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on 16-11-2013 09:19 PM
No it's not.
It is theory at the moment.
Sounds like an alarmist to me with unproven scientific claims.
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on 16-11-2013 09:24 PM
My brother died and they did an autopsy on him, well his brain, and we were told he was an alcoholic genetically. He was 16 at the time.
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16-11-2013 09:42 PM - edited 16-11-2013 09:44 PM
My apologies but as sad as that sounds it is not proof of something.
The first reports of an 'alcoholic gene' are based on a Swedish study on twins and shows that there is a 'risk' of being an alcoholic, not destiny.
Also does not take into account self abuse and or anti social behaviour.
The latest study I think used 70 or more cadavers with half being controls and half died of drinking related disease.
The gene they believe is the one is the dopamine D2 receptor gene, but this is a 'belief'.
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on 17-11-2013 07:14 AM
@crystal**flake wrote:My brother died and they did an autopsy on him, well his brain, and we were told he was an alcoholic genetically. He was 16 at the time.
That's so sad crystal....I am sorry for your loss.
If a child is an alcoholic genetically, no one should serve them alcohol at any age.
Genetics influence the likelihood of developing alcoholism, as do other factors. For example , environment.
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17-11-2013 07:57 AM - edited 17-11-2013 07:59 AM
blaming the "drug" is an addicts excuse. (gotta love the western culture that still categorizes "drugs" separately from the
other "drugs" Mr Nicoteen and Mr Al K Hall and uses phrases like "Repeatedly abusing drugs or alcohol" instead of
just ""Repeatedly abusing drugs" western society likes to still separate alcohol from what it is a :"legal drug"
(and therein lies part of the problem)
barring/making the drug illegal just hides the problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
...but it is still there just that organized crime makes more money out of it
Addiction regardless of the medium/subject can be related to genetics...... all addiction
http://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/is-addiction-a-disease.htm
Why are there genes for addiction? We all have the genetic predisposition for addiction because there is an evolutionary advantage to that.
When an animal eats a certain food that it likes, there is an advantage to associating pleasure with that food so that the animal will look for that food in the future.
In other words the potential for addiction is hardwired into our brain.
Everyone has eaten too much of their favorite food even though they knew it wasn't good for them.
Although everyone has the potential for addiction, some people are more predisposed to addiction than others. Some people drink alcoholically from the beginning.
Other people start out as a moderate drinker and then become alcoholics later on.
How does that happen?
Repeatedly abusing drugs or alcohol permanently rewires your brain. If you start out with a low genetic predisposition for addiction, you can still end up with an addiction.
If you repeatedly abuse drugs or alcohol because of poor coping skills, then you'll permanently rewire your brain.
Every time you abuse alcohol, you'll strengthen the wiring associated with drinking, and you'll chase that buzz even more.
The more you chase the effect of alcohol, the greater your chance of eventually developing an addiction.
Your genes are not your destiny. The 50% of addiction that is caused by poor coping skills is where you can make a difference. Lots of people have come from addicted families but managed to overcome their family history and live happy lives. You can use this opportunity to change your life.
the problem is the non recognition in the general community that an addictive personality without treatment will find a
way to satisfy their cravings whether it is drug abuse or possibly abuse/addiction in a completely different facet of their life
http://www.lifeworkscommunity.com/news/blog/the-genetics-of-a-sex-addict.html
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on 17-11-2013 08:02 AM
I much prefer Tex Mortons version but this is the only one I could find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djz-XizAEmI
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on 17-11-2013 08:16 AM
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:blaming the "drug" is an addicts excuse. (gotta love the western culture that still categorizes "drugs" separately from the
other "drugs" Mr Nicoteen and Mr Al K Hall and uses phrases like "Repeatedly abusing drugs or alcohol" instead of
just ""Repeatedly abusing drugs" western society likes to still separate alcohol from what it is a :"legal drug"
(and therein lies part of the problem)
barring/making the drug illegal just hides the problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
...but it is still there just that organized crime makes more money out of it
Addiction regardless of the medium/subject can be related to genetics...... all addiction
http://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/is-addiction-a-disease.htm
Why are there genes for addiction? We all have the genetic predisposition for addiction because there is an evolutionary advantage to that.
When an animal eats a certain food that it likes, there is an advantage to associating pleasure with that food so that the animal will look for that food in the future.
In other words the potential for addiction is hardwired into our brain.
Everyone has eaten too much of their favorite food even though they knew it wasn't good for them.
Although everyone has the potential for addiction, some people are more predisposed to addiction than others. Some people drink alcoholically from the beginning.
Other people start out as a moderate drinker and then become alcoholics later on.
How does that happen?
Repeatedly abusing drugs or alcohol permanently rewires your brain. If you start out with a low genetic predisposition for addiction, you can still end up with an addiction.
If you repeatedly abuse drugs or alcohol because of poor coping skills, then you'll permanently rewire your brain.
Every time you abuse alcohol, you'll strengthen the wiring associated with drinking, and you'll chase that buzz even more.
The more you chase the effect of alcohol, the greater your chance of eventually developing an addiction.
Your genes are not your destiny. The 50% of addiction that is caused by poor coping skills is where you can make a difference. Lots of people have come from addicted families but managed to overcome their family history and live happy lives. You can use this opportunity to change your life.
the problem is the non recognition in the general community that an addictive personality without treatment will find a
way to satisfy their cravings whether it is drug abuse or possibly abuse/addiction in a completely different facet of their life
http://www.lifeworkscommunity.com/news/blog/the-genetics-of-a-sex-addict.html