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on 20-11-2013 04:57 PM
Of-course, everybody is spying on everybody else, and everybody knows that everybody is spying. But I have a feeling that trying to tap 1st lady's private conversations is just a step too far.
And no, TA did not handle the situation well, he insulted the Indonesians yet again, and it will cost us dearly. USA is totally different, they can do anything they want, Australia cannot afford to just say "too bad, get over it".
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 20-11-2013 06:46 PM
I never thought I would utter these words, but......Bring back John Howard.
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on 20-11-2013 06:48 PM
what for??
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on 20-11-2013 06:49 PM
Interestingly TA has not blamed it on the previous government. Wonder why? Up till now he has used every opportunity to say something critical of the Labor government.
Because his govt is was doing it too?
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on 20-11-2013 06:57 PM
The whole thing is getting ridiculous. Now Indonesia has ordered it's people to stop all co-operaion with Australia. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/indonesian-president-sby-orders-end-to-coopera...
It's like the expenses scandal - if Abbott had dealt with it swiftly and responsibly instead of denying wrongdoing then it would have faded away into nothing. Instead he defended himself and his ministers (weakly) and took too long to make any changes to the system. Ad then those changes were woefull anyway.
Same with this. he should have dealt with it properly to begin with.. Jesus, he even had a precedence to follow given how recent the US/Germany incident occurred. Here is Obama giving him the political and strategic example to follow.
Instead he behaves like a boofhead/
He is so out of his depth. No idea what the hell he is doing.
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on 20-11-2013 07:09 PM
Indonesia has ordered it's people to stop all co-operaion with Australia
does that mean they will stop taking aid money and block all tourists from entering the country?
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ya right
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on 20-11-2013 07:22 PM
Indonesia, are playing the bluff game, they need to suck it up just like we did a decade ago when Howard let them off without rebuke for it's own intelligence gathering.
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on 20-11-2013 09:22 PM
I was interest when TA referred this week to Indonesia being an 'emerging democracy'.
A nation of how many? 80% plus of them being a certain religion....and 86% of them wanting to introduce Sharia law as the national law.
An emerging democracy? Gimmee a break.
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on 20-11-2013 09:27 PM
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on 20-11-2013 09:32 PM
Oops, I stand corrected. 72% of the muslims in Indonesia want Sharia law.
It was 86% of the Malaysians who wanted Sharia Law.