There is a vast difference between transmitting a radio signal from an aircraft with the radiating element outside the plane and that of a cell phone with the radiating element inside the plane (Faraday Cage)  you would know that being an aircraft electronics engineer, but I guess that does not fit in with your belief.

Take your cell phone into a metal garden shed and see what happens to the signal strength 🙂

Well, I'm going to deny the "need" for those wars, though I can understand the "desire" of some of those in the US military-industrial complex to engage in it.

it's a subject which has been talked to death now, and one feature of those events is that there is a plethora of conflicting evidence and opinion.

Indulging my paranoia, I'm going to say that a good dis-information campaign so muddies the waters that it's just not possible to divine the truth.

that's the holy grail of such a campaign. Plausible denial?

it's a very muddy river indeed.

Surely you saw the need to go up against Germany...yes?

Even that one there were those against it.

it's a very muddy river indeed.

True, and I do question everything I see AND hear (especially the news!). I still recognize a dumb theory when I see one.

Everythings possible until proven impossible and then after that...it's possible. (something like that).

Gotta go.....time for breakfast, then a nap.

See ya! 🙂

Germany is our friend now. So no need to wage war on them. 😉

That was a different time.

I personally didn't "need" to wage war on Afghanistan or Iraq, but I can understnd the preceived "need" to wage such wars by those who stood to benefit from them.

Afghanistan. oil/gas pipelines. (google it)

iraq. oil and to protect the status of the US dollar as a reserve currency.

To destabilise the Middle East and give an excuse for a continued US military presence in that area as "policeman".

Goodness knows, the last thing that Western Powers wants in those countries is for them to have a true democracy, one which would not be so amenable to the national interests of the USA.

(bed time . .. seeya 'ron) 🙂

One more thing before I go.....There are some who think they are soooo smart they can take the "underdogs" side of every single theory/argument.

Some severely overestimate their intelligence and I don't think they realize how silly they look.

*carefully checks spelling, lol*

WOOT!

Breakfast is over so I'll respond to your last post.

I've read a lot of opinions from here AND where I am and have never responded before, but here are my thoughts..

No one knows all the facts or factors that were considered before going to war with either of those countries and probably will be 50 years before the facts are out (if ever).

My opinion....We should have finished Iraq right after they invaded Kuwait (that's right...Kuwait asked for help regardless of what you know who says) BIG mistake backing off. Never the less, the guy was a tyrant and a mass murderer and tortured 10's of 1,000's of people. I know darn well people here would be asking, "why isn't the US helping them?".

If we let them be we'd have a mad man running loose funding billions to terrorism.

Afghanistan.....if they we left alone we would have an entire country run by an actual terrorist organization. A country that is the number 1 grower of poppies. A drug dealing terrorist country with billions of dollars at their disposal. And when those profits were used to attack your country, you'd be saying the same thing, "why is the US allowing this?".

As far as the US profitting.....It's COST the US Trillions, so there isn't any profit. We'll be paying long after it's over too. (funding the healthcare of the injured alone is staggering)

That's my opinion and I have zero desire to debate it. The only way to prove me right or wrong would be to have a craft that could travel to alternate realities and have a look.

Then again....Aliens AND the Illuminati could be behind the whole shabang!

Ok, sucked in again (me, not you)

Kuwait . . Madeleine Albright indicated to Saddam Hussein that America wasn't interested if Iraq invaded Kuwait.

and then, later they were.

Afghanistan ... did you research the oil/gas pipeline deal that the Americans were going to do with the Taliban?

The entire country will be in chaos when the Americans leave and they grow the most lucrative cash crop they can.

research US CIA involvement in opium in Vietnam. then research how the Americans got paid for the weapons they supplied to the Muhajedin in Afghanistan. paid for by profits from the opium trade.

If we let them be, then they'd have their very own tyrant and not one supported by the US (until it no longer served their purpose to support him)

As far as us profiting . . it was never about us profiting . . it was about some very influential US companies privately profiting but paid for by US govt expenditure . . it was the tax payer who paid. the public paid so private companies could profit from an illegal and an immoral war.

It cost us, the tax-payer trillions. It profited the likes of Haliburton et al.

at our cost. for nothing. what's going to happen when we leave Afhanistan and Iraq? . . . business as usual. civl wr and destruction and there's nothing we can do about it.

it's called "self determination" . . let's leave it up to those countries to determine what they want and what they are prepared to put up with.

That you do have a desire to debate it is apparent.

and it's "alternative" not "alternate" in the sense which you have used it.

Military-industrial complexes and very wealthy private individuals and their companies are "behind it" . . all to profit private concerns at the public's expense.

think about that when next you file your tax return.

because the Australian tax payer paid as well. we paid lots of public money in order that private individuals and their companies might reap private profits.

That you do have a desire to debate it is apparent.

No way. I've had my say and no doubt you make some great points. One thing is for sure...it's a mess over there and always will be regardless of what anyone does or doesn't do. (short of leveling the entire region)

and it's "alternative" not "alternate" in the sense which you have used it.

You don't expect me to make a post that long and not make any mistakes in grammar, spelling, and be free of typos....do you? lol

If it's "alternative" instead of "alternate"....then "realities" would be "reality".

Kapow!