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@lakeland27 wrote:

well show us then siggie reported by realists . you make so many unsubstantiated claims, back it up please

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You first........

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@just_me_karen wrote:
It's surprising the number of people who don't understand the basics of carbon pricing. Well ok, not really...but all educated people really should try and learn, if only so they can make informed judgements instead of politically ideological flimflam statements that only show how some didn't listen in junior science or economics class.

Carbon pricing worked in Australia, it reduced greenhouse pollutants, increased renewable energy usage and increased research into clean power sources. Just like fines reduce the number of speeding cars on our road,..money is an excellent motivator in a capitalist society.

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Yes it sure works...................... NOT

German utilities, which are required by law to provide back-up power for the renewable generators, are facing a bleak financial future with falling profits, increasing debt and depressed share prices. This is a serious economic and political challenge for Germany.

In Britain, which is subject to EU emissions directives, there are reports that hundreds of businesses are to be paid to shut down between 4pm and 8pm on winter weekdays to prevent blackouts. Is this the developed economy of the future?   It is in the world of the green extreme alarmists as we see on here all the time and they all want to see the end of industry and us all living in caves burning candles.... 

Yep GREEN really worked in Germany and the UK now didnt it..........................NOT.... 

Millions of Britons face winter power cuts

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/435107/Millions-of-Britons-face-winter-power-cuts

 yes , they are. thats why the **bleep**wit journo's you love are so envious.

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=14090&ArticleId=352066

If that happens, it will be the first time temperatures have been so high for so long in 50 years of records."

The southern towns of Miles and Roma both broke annual records on Sunday, sweltering through temperatures of 48.3C and 44.7C respectively.

Warwick also saw a new annual record of 40.4C, as did Toowoomba Airport (38.3C) and St George Airport (45.5C).

Towns like Windorah (47.3C), Oakey (40.3C), Injune (43.2C), Charleville (46.0C) and Quilpie (46.2C) had their hottest December days on record, while Longreach recorded its warmest night at 30.7C, breaking a 45-year record.

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There you are, records to support my last post all supplied  by your own little self.:-0

 LL27 sinking slowly beneath the waves with a shark eating one leg is heard to remark,"Without records I refude to belive you are 

a shark and are eating my leg". 😞