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@acacia_pycnantha wrote:

Meep . . my statement was in regards to an earlier post which was making comparison with nazi Germany.

 

It's one thing for the govt to make rules and quite another for private retail establishments to do so.

 

and, as we have established, the stores have no legal right to open a shopper's bag. they are not even allowed to touch it.

 

what they do try to do is to imply that they have this right, by posting conditions of entry signs and their hope is that most people will think that they do have such a right.

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I disagree.  That is not what they try to do at all.   If you came across an employee who thought they had the right to physically inspect your bag, it would be a case of inadequate training.  I would bring that to the management's attention and if the practice continued, report it to the Fair Trading.

The Conditions of Entry are usually worded in a way that any reasonable person would undertand the implications.   The shop owners usually consult  Fair Trading Guidelines.   Displaying misleading signs, would be in breach of Fair Trading laws.

?Doubt it, it more shows what type of people there are in the world. What is more important in life what is worth getting outraged about?... young people dying from a king hit... or the future chance of having a store person request a quick glance in your shopping bag?

If they have a sign, and you refuse to open you bag for inspection when asked, they can detain you until someone with authority arrives to undertake such an inspection.

Ok taking it one step forward, crikey, how would they detain you do you know?   They would have to hold you or at least touch you and couldn't that be considered assault? 

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@am*3 wrote:

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@crikey*mate wrote:

anyone else feel like this?

 

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Sure do, if shoppers feel they are treated like thieves, don't want to open their bags fine with me.. rant on.. don't expect anyone else to agree with you though!

 

Donna's own threads must be lacking some oomph.. all the cool people are in this one!

 

I have never seen people line up to get their bag checked at store exit. If one person is having their bag checked by the one staff member at the door, anyone else exiting just walks out the door.

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be nice,

Donna has just stated her opinion and feelings. I don't think she has demanded anyone else agree with her. She has defended her view and position with how it makes her feel, but I don't think she has told anyone how they should feel about it?

It's a nice change from the political threads LOL

But I really am dying to know what's in her knickers drawer! You're supposed to keep the embarrassing stuff in the bottom drawer or under the bed LOLOLOL

The Conditions of Entry are usually worded in a way that any reasonable person would undertand the implications.   The shop owners usually consult  Fair Trading Guidelines.   Displaying misleading signs, would be in breach of Fair Trading laws

The conditions of entry signs are worded like this . . . . "it is a condition of entry that you present your bags for inspection when asked"

the implication is that the store wants to look inside those bags. the implication is that this looking into bags is also a condition of entry.

but it is not.

The condition of entry is that bags be presented or made available for inspection.

Customers have a choice whether they go in a shop or not.. the shop assistants don't drag you in there and demand to rifle through your handbag/manbag.

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@donnashuggy wrote:

The real outrage is that people are outraged that others are outraged 🙂

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That i agree with LOL

Sure do, if shoppers feel they are treated like thieves, don't want to open their bags fine with me.. rant on.. don't expect anyone else to agree with you though!

 

Donna's own threads must be lacking some oomph.. all the cool people are in this one!

 

I have never seen people line up to get their bag checked at store exit. If one person is having their bag checked by the one staff member at the door, anyone else exiting just walks out the door.

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be nice,

 

Donna has just stated her opinion and feelings. I don't think she has demanded anyone else agree with her. She has defended her view and position with how it makes her feel, but I don't think she has told anyone how they should feel about it?

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There is nothing wrong with my post. I just stated my opinons and feelings. 

I do think that people (especially when in the minority) who keep repeating the same thing over and over again are expecting others to agree with them.. otherwise what is the point in typing the same thing over and over again.

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

If they have a sign, and you refuse to open you bag for inspection when asked, they can detain you until someone with authority arrives to undertake such an inspection.

 

Ok taking it one step forward, crikey, how would they detain you do you know?   They would have to hold you or at least touch you and couldn't that be considered assault? 

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No, they ask you to wait for the relevant person to arrive.