Even National Service, that would help them, they would learn a trade and for some they would learn that the world doesnt revolve around them.

That might with the inading hoards ...............should that ever eventuate :).

Isn't it interesting how everyone instantly assumes that unemployed = young dole bludger. 

I doubt whether National Service of cleaning graffiti is going to do much for all those workers who will be  thrown out of work when Holden ceases production, or the machinists who lose their jobs every time a clothing manufacturer goes offshore.

It has been tried before.......did it work then?

My concern is, if they do community work, it will reduce the need for employees in some industries.

Example: Nursing Home has volunteers. The days they volunteer, trained staff are reduced. It is not necessary to have 3 staff on the wing if they have 3 volunteers, so they cut back to 1 trained staff member.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Isn't it interesting how everyone instantly assumes that unemployed = young dole bludger. 

 

I doubt whether National Service of cleaning graffiti is going to do much for all those workers who will be  thrown out of work when Holden ceases production, or the machinists who lose their jobs every time a clothing manufacturer goes offshore.

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I wasnt assuming that the unemployed were young dole bludgers at all.

I know plenty of people in their 30's, 40's right up to 60 yrs. who cannot find workm my brother in law is in his 50's and cant find work.

The national service would be good for the younger ones, they would learn a trade and it would give them something to do, that they could continue when they left the service.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Isn't it interesting how everyone instantly assumes that unemployed = young dole bludger. 

 

I doubt whether National Service of cleaning graffiti is going to do much for all those workers who will be  thrown out of work when Holden ceases production, or the machinists who lose their jobs every time a clothing manufacturer goes offshore.

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I wasnt assuming that the unemployed were young dole bludgers at all.

 

I know plenty of people in their 30's, 40's right up to 60 yrs. who cannot find workm my brother in law is in his 50's and cant find work.

 

The national service would be good for the younger ones, they would learn a trade and it would give them something to do, that they could continue when they left the service.

 

 

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Unfortunately,(or fortunately)  the criteria is quite strict and many would not qualify for the armed services, nor be able to handle the training.

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@azureline** wrote:

It has been tried before.......did it work then?

My concern is, if they do community work, it will reduce the need for employees in some industries.

Example: Nursing Home has volunteers. The days they volunteer, trained staff are reduced. It is not necessary to have 3 staff on the wing if they have 3 volunteers, so they cut back to 1 trained staff member.

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My daughter is an aged care nurse in a nursing home and they dont have any volunteers there at all.

So, nat. service has been tried before, so, he can be tried again who knows it may work better this time.

My son in law works as a nurse in a repat hospital and they dont have any volunteers there either.

Will Work For Dole Work?

Reading the op i thought that was actually the question. Getting people "job ready" "soft skills". So it implies that people are unemployed because they lack the required skills all they need is to be "job ready" - ready for what job's exactly. Where are these job's, I have heard rineart bemoan the lack of people willing to work for her in the mining industry - really? Anyone here tried to get a job in the mining industry, sure there are some jobs available here and there - but it's certainly not a case of here i am, ready, willing and able - and now i get a job. A lot of these kind of jobs go to people who are already employed, just changing jobs.

Or are we really saying "if people won't/can't find paid employment they should be forced to do menial tasks so they don't get money for nothing".  And by the way the last time our armed services were asked about conscription they answered with a resounding NO THANKS, something about forcing people into our army/navy/airforce didn't really make for  high quality armed forces.

Unemployment is not fault of the unemployed. How about for one thing instead of steadily increasing retirement age, we do the opposite and start lowering it. Do we really want to go back to the days when people were literally dropping dead at work, i suppose its OK for those in jobs where you lift nothing heavier than a pencil.

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@azureline** wrote:

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@purple_haize wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Isn't it interesting how everyone instantly assumes that unemployed = young dole bludger. 

 

I doubt whether National Service of cleaning graffiti is going to do much for all those workers who will be  thrown out of work when Holden ceases production, or the machinists who lose their jobs every time a clothing manufacturer goes offshore.

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I wasnt assuming that the unemployed were young dole bludgers at all.

 

I know plenty of people in their 30's, 40's right up to 60 yrs. who cannot find workm my brother in law is in his 50's and cant find work.

 

The national service would be good for the younger ones, they would learn a trade and it would give them something to do, that they could continue when they left the service.

 

 

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Unfortunately,(or fortunately)  the criteria is quite strict and many would not qualify for the armed services, nor be able to handle the training.

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I know of a couple of guys who did nat. serv. when it was in before and they said it was the best thing they ever did, it taught them respect and they learnt a trade, it was hard, but the did it and survived and they are still in the trade today.