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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Sorry Hawk, but in light of the recent revelations regarding misappropriation of funds (Craig Thomson), backroom deals (Barangaroo contracts) and standover tactics (yes, by your precious bikie gangs) of the unions, I think the public would be very disappointed if there wasn't some sort of enquiry.

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the inquiry needs to start at the top

 

remember

 

 

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

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Fine. Let it start at the top. Craig Thomson was a good start.

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no it sound start higher, like with Tony and deal deals done to get the media on side.

 

do you really believe the only coruption is from the middle down?

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It could start with a bit further back too...like before the current government came into power.

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Yes, it should cover the lengths they went to to destroy an elected government.

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@the_hawk* wrote:

selling assets is so short sighted, to me its no different to taking a redundency package that gives you two years worth of wages in a lump sum, seems great at the time but what happens after two years when the money is gone and you still dont have an income and you still have debts.

 

 

 

 

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Well of course. Even I, a political numpty with minimal numerical skills, can work that out.

Yet we've let it go on so long now, under both party's governments without more than mild murmurs of disapproval.

Now that we're getting to the bottom of the barrel, and waking up to the fact there's hardly anything left, wer'e heaping the blame on to the government that's last in the line, and making it's leader, Mr Abbott the scapegoat of convenience.

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Sorry Hawk, but in light of the recent revelations regarding misappropriation of funds (Craig Thomson), backroom deals (Barangaroo contracts) and standover tactics (yes, by your precious bikie gangs) of the unions, I think the public would be very disappointed if there wasn't some sort of enquiry.

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😮

 

the inquiry needs to start at the top

 

remember

 

 

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

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Fine. Let it start at the top. Craig Thomson was a good start.

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no it sound start higher, like with Tony and deal deals done to get the media on side.

 

do you really believe the only coruption is from the middle down?

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It could start with a bit further back too...like before the current government came into power.

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Thats fine, you have to remember that corruption can only exist in a corrupt system and that starts at the top.

no point cleening up the effects when the cause is still there

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Bring it on.

Abbott is hardly a scapegoat. The derision he attracts is of his own making,

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Sorry Hawk, but in light of the recent revelations regarding misappropriation of funds (Craig Thomson), backroom deals (Barangaroo contracts) and standover tactics (yes, by your precious bikie gangs) of the unions, I think the public would be very disappointed if there wasn't some sort of enquiry.

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😮

 

the inquiry needs to start at the top

 

remember

 

 

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

---

Fine. Let it start at the top. Craig Thomson was a good start.

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no it sound start higher, like with Tony and deal deals done to get the media on side.

 

do you really believe the only coruption is from the middle down?

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It could start with a bit further back too...like before the current government came into power.

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Thats fine, you have to remember that corruption can only exist in a corrupt system and that starts at the top.

no point cleening up the effects when the cause is still there

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Yes.  A lot of what is obviously corruption these days was considered perfectly acceptable behaviour a few years ago.

A payoff with a holiday or a new roof was considered a perk of the job. 

Stop the Rot is straight out of the LNP campaign booklet. It's just a slogan. Propaganda. Repeat it enough and it implants itself into the minds of the voting public.

Tony Abbott isn't a scapegoat, imo.

freaki: Stop the Rot is straight out of the LNP campaign booklet. It's just a slogan. Propaganda. Repeat it enough and it implants itself into the minds of the voting public.

Very true.

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

selling assets is so short sighted, to me its no different to taking a redundency package that gives you two years worth of wages in a lump sum, seems great at the time but what happens after two years when the money is gone and you still dont have an income and you still have debts.

 

 

 

 

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Well of course. Even I, a political numpty with minimal numerical skills, can work that out.

 

Yet we've let it go on so long now, under both party's governments without more than mild murmurs of disapproval.

Now that we're getting to the bottom of the barrel, and waking up to the fact there's hardly anything left, wer'e heaping the blame on to the government that's last in the line, and making it's leader, Mr Abbott the scapegoat of convenience.

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I have always spoken out about selling assets, here in SA it started with the State bank debt and selling ETSA our state owned power company to pay of debt the bank incurred when they thought they were bid time money makers on the international markets and lost heaps of bank money that was guaranteed by the state government.

The power company was sold and the money disappeared into state revenue and we still have a huge debt, then they did the same thing with SA water, the only thing that has changed is we all pay higher charges many times the inflation rate and still have massive debt.

The federal Gov sold of Teltsra, prices increased and now investors receive a nice 5% tax paid dividend, double the official interest rate.

Sounds like they are geniouses when it comes to economics  

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

selling assets is so short sighted, to me its no different to taking a redundency package that gives you two years worth of wages in a lump sum, seems great at the time but what happens after two years when the money is gone and you still dont have an income and you still have debts.

 

 

 

 

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Well of course. Even I, a political numpty with minimal numerical skills, can work that out.

 

Yet we've let it go on so long now, under both party's governments without more than mild murmurs of disapproval.

Now that we're getting to the bottom of the barrel, and waking up to the fact there's hardly anything left, wer'e heaping the blame on to the government that's last in the line, and making it's leader, Mr Abbott the scapegoat of convenience.

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I have always spoken out about selling assets, here in SA it started with the State bank debt and selling ETSA our state owned power company to pay of debt the bank incurred when they thought they were bid time money makers on the international markets and lost heaps of bank money that was guaranteed by the state government.

 

The power company was sold and the money disappeared into state revenue and we still have a huge debt, then they did the same thing with SA water, the only thing that has changed is we all pay higher charges many times the inflation rate and still have massive debt.

 

The federal Gov sold of Teltsra, prices increased and now investors receive a nice 5% tax paid dividend, double the official interest rate.

 

Sounds like they are geniouses when it comes to economics  

 

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And that's all Mr Abbot's fault is it?

And that's all Mr Abbot's fault is it?

In the case of Medicare who else is there?

is he not the one that wants to sell it?

its just more of the same actions