A man with warrants out for child porn was suppose to protect the boy? How bout the cops, his mother and child protection? They all played a part in not keeping him safe. I've read his tribute page, read about the hard life he had. Seeing as you know so much about what the mother is going to do (go back to england ans so on) why did she not phone the police when the father first turned up? Why when she knew he was so violent did she say she thought a public place was safe? Why did she not lead her child away to safe place when he first turned up?

The father didnt attack straight away, he waited. She had time to get her child to safety, to call for help

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@chuk_77 wrote:

i do wonder if she called the police the moment he turned up, hence breaking his AVO and the possibility of the police turning up before he took a cricket bat to his own child?

Did she know about the warrants out for child porn? If she did why would she want her child anywhere near him?

So much went wrong with the adults and the poor boy paid the ultimate price. 

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She says Greg had not violated terms of the AVO by attending the event.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/21456521/father-who-killed-son-luke-batty-at-cricket-ground-had-histo...

I understand your pain.  

However, there is another mother (and a father) out there somewhere, who lost a son and a grandson that day.

DEB

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@chuk_77 wrote:

A man with warrants out for child porn was suppose to protect the boy? How bout the cops, his mother and child protection? They all played a part in not keeping him safe. I've read his tribute page, read about the hard life he had. Seeing as you know so much about what the mother is going to do (go back to england ans so on) why did she not phone the police when the father first turned up? Why when she knew he was so violent did she say she thought a public place was safe? Why did she not lead her child away to safe place when he first turned up?

The father didnt attack straight away, he waited. She had time to get her child to safety, to call for help

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Why dont you ring around and ask someone WHY?

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@lloydslights wrote:

I understand your pain.  

 

However, there is another mother (and a father) out there somewhere, who lost a son and a grandson that day.

 

DEB

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YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY PAIN...........you dont even know me so please dont pretend to think you do.

Yes there is another mother and father out there that has lost their grandchild and the son that killed the boy.

BUT it is the mother of the boy that will be feeling the most pain, she gave birth to the boy, he was her only child, if you have never lost a child, you have no idea, of the heartbreak, the sadness and the grief, she will go through.........

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@**meep** wrote:

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@chuk_77 wrote:

i do wonder if she called the police the moment he turned up, hence breaking his AVO and the possibility of the police turning up before he took a cricket bat to his own child?

Did she know about the warrants out for child porn? If she did why would she want her child anywhere near him?

So much went wrong with the adults and the poor boy paid the ultimate price. 

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She says Greg had not violated terms of the AVO by attending the event.

 

http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/21456521/father-who-killed-son-luke-batty-at-cricket-ground-had-histo...

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So, the AVO possibly was not about the child. That would be why the mum was not on the scene at the time.

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@purple_haize wrote:

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@lloydslights wrote:

I understand your pain.  

 

However, there is another mother (and a father) out there somewhere, who lost a son and a grandson that day.

 

DEB

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YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY PAIN...........you dont even know me so please dont pretend to think you do.

 

Yes there is another mother and father out there that has lost their grandchild and the son that killed the boy.

 

BUT it is the mother of the boy that will be feeling the most pain, she gave birth to the boy, he was her only child, if you have never lost a child, you have no idea, of the heartbreak, the sadness and the grief, she will go through.........

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you can't know who else has lost a child so it is possible any poster here understands the pain.

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@azureline** wrote:

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@purple_haize wrote:

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@lloydslights wrote:

I understand your pain.  

 

However, there is another mother (and a father) out there somewhere, who lost a son and a grandson that day.

 

DEB

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YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY PAIN...........you dont even know me so please dont pretend to think you do.

 

Yes there is another mother and father out there that has lost their grandchild and the son that killed the boy.

 

BUT it is the mother of the boy that will be feeling the most pain, she gave birth to the boy, he was her only child, if you have never lost a child, you have no idea, of the heartbreak, the sadness and the grief, she will go through.........

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you can't know who else has lost a child so it is possible any poster here understands the pain.

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AZ, I doubt it...........if and I know their are posters on this board that have lost children in death..........but most if not all would know how that child died.

I dont know how my son died, I was told at one stage what it was, has since inquired through my solicitor a few things and he in turn contacted the coroner on my sons case................now it appears, they are not sure how he died, ...........do you know how hard that is to live with, I dont know how my own son died, and I have to live with that and that is tearing me apart............so no, you dont know how I feel.

Had the adults around the boy been doing their job correctly the outcome may have been different. The father should not have been able to have any access to the child while under investigation for child pornography. I really hope that the mother knew nothing about that aspect of the fathers life. If she did, in my eyes she failed to keep the boy safe.

My concern is for the boy and all he had gone through previously according to his tribute page

My sister has been the victim of domestic violence, and although the children were all witness to that, the abuse was never directed towards them. I think a lot of abused women have that experience and thats why they feel its ok for the fathers to have access, especially in such a public place, and in many cases it probably is ok.