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@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?

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This topic has been covered before:

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the  the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).

South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.

Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''

Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.

These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.

But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

From Here

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?

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This topic has been covered before:

 

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the  the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).

South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.

Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''

Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.

These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.

But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

 

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Do we send money for education to South Korea, Singapore, Finland and Hong Kong?

The previous govt had a plan of action to deal with the educational issues within Australia.  It's yet to be seen how much those programs will be gutted.

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@silverfaun wrote:

What about our own indiginous children? don't they deserve a first class education & support to get it. $300 million would go a long way to help them.

 

But as I said previously, this is borrowed money, working families will have to pay it back with interest to the detriment of the education of our own children.

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where have you been living fgs , this government and its state franchisee's have stripped a billion out of the education system. i think mr pyne ought to be on your radar .

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:
Icy wrote: Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes.

I would like to know more about that. Which countries are those? What level students are they outstripping..primary, secondary, tertiary?

How do you know they are outstripping our own? Do they make the students in the poor countries sit Naplan tests so they can compare them with Aust kids?

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This topic has been covered before:

 

"South Korea is one of many nations that trounced Australia this week in a series of major international school tests, including the  the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS) and the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS).

South Korea, like Singapore, Hong Kong and Finland, gained top spots in every subject.

Our own performance, by contrast, was described as a ''wake-up call'', a ''disappointment'' and a ''catastrophe.''

Australia languished between 12th and 25th in maths and science. In reading, we ranked 27th out of 48 countries, behind every other English-speaking country that participated in the studies, including the US, England and Ireland. About a quarter of Australian students did not meet the minimal acceptable standard of proficiency across both tests.

These rankings were significantly worse than those of the other major international exams Australia participates in, such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which tests the performance of 15-year-olds in a range of subjects.

But even the most recent PISA scores, in 2009, showed declining literacy and flatlining maths and science results."

 

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Do we send money for education to South Korea, Singapore, Finland and Hong Kong?

 

The point is not where wer'e sending to, the point is that it's being sent when our own students are obviously lagging.

 

The previous govt had a plan of action to deal with the educational issues within Australia.  It's yet to be seen how much those programs will be gutted.

 

Yes, agree.

 

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@debra9275 wrote:

that's very diplomatic of her, quite a contrast to Abbott slinging domestic mud at the opposition at every opportunity

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yes it is and shows tony for what he really is

I dont dare say what I really feel about him as it would be heavily moderated

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

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@freakiness wrote:

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

 

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whaatt. lol

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@freakiness wrote:

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

 

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the way we are heading it looks like an investment in the future when we need handouts to exist

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@freakiness wrote:

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

 

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oh right. Lol.

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

By assisting those countries with education now we might help prevent the need for more assistance later.

 

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oh right. Lol.

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I take it you can't see any benefit in educating the young so they are better equipped to manage in the future?