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on 25-02-2014 10:41 AM
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?
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on 25-02-2014 10:42 AM
that is 100% correct. by providing educational support the idea is that education in some countries will be less religious in its base, such as the madrassar schools that tend to radicalise young people in places like Indonesia and Pakistan. educating people in a proper secular fashion blunts the clout of religious fundamentalists. something we need to be mindful of here.
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on 25-02-2014 10:54 AM
Some Indonesian kids might know they are receiving a largely secular education because of Australian funding, but most that do, probably would not realise. But they will know they are in a school and not a madrasa, or Islamic boarding school.
Some madrasas are very good, but most are mediocre, and then there is the handful that preach blind hatred and extreme violence to impressionable young minds. Do we want to be stuck with people like that as neighbours forever? No, me neither. So helping fund education in what is still a developing country, with more than a few continuing problems, is actually a pretty good idea.
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on 25-02-2014 10:57 AM
@am*3 wrote:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes".
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?
I don't find it pivotal to this discussion, Am, and if it's so important to you, why don't you do your own research?
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on 25-02-2014 11:44 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes".
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?I don't find it pivotal to this discussion, Am, and if it's so important to you, why don't you do your own research?
Of course it's "pivotal" to the discussion, after a statement that the money should not be used for educating these young people.
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on 25-02-2014 12:01 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes".
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?I don't find it pivotal to this discussion, Am, and if it's so important to you, why don't you do your own research?
Of course it's "pivotal" to the discussion,
Not to me.
after a statement that the money should not be used for educating these young people.
No such statement was made.
If you read back to my post which you have so kindly quoted above you will see the words:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent"
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on 25-02-2014 12:22 PM
@silverfaun wrote:Sometimes I wonder about Abbott. He should have scrapped this $300 million borrowed money largesse from Gillard.
We will pay for this come budget time then all the entitlements mindset will go into overdrive whinging about their right to government handouts.
"No man is an island" (John Donne) and, metaphorically, no country is either - even Australia. We live in a global economy and you can be sure that any overseas 'largesse' handed out by any Australian government is given in a spirit o fself interest and economic pragmatism rather than unselfish altruism.
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25-02-2014 01:01 PM - edited 25-02-2014 01:06 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes".
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?I don't find it pivotal to this discussion, Am, and if it's so important to you, why don't you do your own research?
OK, but it was your comment, and as it is written it isn't accurate in anyway...misleading. It follows directly on from your comment about throwing money overseas to look benevolent (which isn't true either, since when has spending money educating children, in any country, come under throwing money to look benevolent?)
I shouldn't need to research something someone else has posted as fact.
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on 25-02-2014 01:04 PM
@am*3 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
"It's all very well to throw money overseas to make yourself look benevolent, but you should look to your own country's needs first. Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stakes".
You didn't answer that. Countries where our grants are going.? Are?I don't find it pivotal to this discussion, Am, and if it's so important to you, why don't you do your own research?
OK, but it was your comment, and as it is written it isn't accurate in anyway...misleading in fact. I shouldn't need to research something someone else has posted as fact.
I wasn't aware I was under oath.
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on 25-02-2014 01:09 PM
Wer'e gettting to the point where students in the countries where our grants are going are outstripping our own in the education stake.
No, we (Australia) are not, getting to that point and not likely to either.