@poddster wrote:

That is the price of unconditional love, I, personally don't believe in it.


If we put the focus on our Government which is what we should be doing in discussion about welfare and our tax dollars...we do not pay our Government to have unconditional love for each and every one of us.

We pay them to look after and distribute our money to our citizens where it is needed.

To ignore our needs would be them failing us and their duty of care to us 

It takes 2hrs 7mins (shortest time)  on the train from where I live to Central Syd, the first 40mins of that to get to Wgong.

 

They have cut a bit of time off  the train journeys south, recently.

 

Living in Nth Wgong a trip to Syd, would be a lot shorter.. express.. less stops.

 

They do a lot of the track work in the weekends.


@am*3 wrote:

It takes 2hrs 7mins (shortest time)  on the train from where I live to Central Syd, the first 40mins of that to get to Wgong.

 

They have cut a bit of time off  the train journeys south, recently.

 

Living in Nth Wgong a trip to Syd, would be a lot shorter.


just asking - do you do it every day of the week? i know thats the timetable but my experience was quite different, and it was the same when i travelled every day to Miranda.

How long ago did you do it?  Off topic so won't  continue. Just pointing out that it is not 2hrs on a train to Wgong generally speaking.


@izabsmiling wrote:

@poddster wrote:

That is the price of unconditional love, I, personally don't believe in it.


If we put the focus on our Government which is what we should be doing in discussion about welfare and our tax dollars...we do not pay our Government to have unconditional love for each and every one of us.

We pay them to look after and distribute our money to our citizens where it is needed.

To ignore our needs would be them failing us and their duty of care to us 


On that I agree with you.

There has to be conditions in place before any payment is made.

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

what should go first ?

this should imo .He says that his views changed after considering what would be best for HIS 3 daughters ...say no more !

 

 

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Tony Abbott compares his change of heart on paid parental leave to Richard Nixon's 1972 visit to communist China

Date March 4, 2014 -



 

"Let's drop this silly guilt by association and let's get on with something which is unambiguously good for the women of our country, for the families of our country and for the economy of our country."

Mr Abbott said he opposed paid parental leave as a minister in the Howard government but 

his views changed after considering what would be best for his three daughters.

''It is a little disconcerting when a conservative, when a traditionalist such as myself, comes up with something which is not regarded as a conservative and a traditional position,'' he said.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-compares-his-change-of-heart-on-pa...

 He claims it's

unambiguously good for the women of our country, for the families of our country and for the economy of our country.

 

really ? unambiguously good 

 

 

example of use of the word unambiguously
The final question, is this in our economic interest, cannot be answered clearly and unambiguously.

 

TIMES, SUNDAY TIMES (2002)

 

silverfaun
Community Member

It's good that he has grown and matured since his stance on ,PPL,  its such a great policy and only the richest companies will fund it with a very modest company tax increase.

 

How come only the 500 biggest companies were slugged with a carbon tax and not a peep from the now, so, fiscally conservative, laughable left

 

How come when the carbon flowed through EVERY item and manufacturing job, energy and food and fuel  was impacted but Gillard was allowed to spout her socialism  and lies and get away with it with no good outcome for the country or the people.

 

 

 

Our PM is not my idea of  a man who has grown and 'matured'