as they're going to the Middele East it made me wonder if it was just a way around our animal welfare laws.

if it was for Indonesian consumption, I would view it differently

my son saw it on his way home Flashie, he said the moon had a red ring around it

I looks a bit redish...........and  then brighter as it passes..........that is about as exciting as I can make it sound......

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@just_me_karen wrote:
Buzz I have a drawer packed full of gum, patches, mouth sprays and nicotine pills. But I prefer not to look in that drawer lol. Every time I think about giving up I go out and waste more money on products....and chuck them in the drawer.

I'd love to give up, mainly because Flashie has promised to give up her dots if I do. Oh, and for my health...and wallet...and the stinky factor.

Well done on still being off the ciggies! and Joono too.

I have this urge to swear at you both roflmao!

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No use in sayin you`d love to give up smoking,you have to WANT to STOP smoking Karen..the rest is quite easy IMO..you don`t need all the  nicotine stuff either!!y

I agree Nics...............I found that going cold turkey works best.

I do wish hubby would give up smoking...............but he does not want to........he enjoys it...........so I live with it.

It has been 25 years since I smoked.