Re: Aussie Jihadist On Disability Pension In Syria

love*today · ‎13-07-2014

**bleep** him off!

We don't want his kind in this country! And yeah I do mean we, I am not alone in thinking that.

love*today · ‎13-07-2014

I should clarify before that gets jumped on for the wrong reasons......I don't mean his nationality or his families.

***super_nova*** · ‎13-07-2014

We are all assuming that going to fight in Syria means that he hates Australia. When this uprising started we were told it is a good thing to get rid of Bashar al-Assad, it took us a while to get worried about the fact that actually the "freedom" fighters are a very bad alternative. Do we even know who this guy went to fight with? There are many different groups fighting; I doubt that anybody knows everything that is going on. As far as I know, this guy travelled through several different countries, and the last anybody heard was that he was going across border to Syria.

Going to fight in foreign country is against Australian law; so I am sure Australian citizens doing that will be charged when they return, if they return. And people who were not born here may lose their citizenship. But I cannot see how Australia can refuse somebody who was born here to return. If we start dumping people on other countries, we will find that soon many countries will not be happy to allow anybody with Australian passport to come; just in the case we decide we do not like them, cancel their passport and refuse to take them back. Or maybe we just put them in old boats and push them towards Indonesia?

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .

icyfroth · ‎13-07-2014

Yeah we can. We can dump them on the country they were fighting for against the country they were drawing their pension from.

cherples · ‎13-07-2014

@icyfroth wrote:
Yeah we can. We can dump them on the country they were fighting for against the country they were drawing their pension from.

So where is the info about the other 300 people with schizophrenia that are supposedly fighting against Australia while collecting the DSP?

And where are they fighting against Australia?

icyfroth · ‎13-07-2014

Here. knock yourself out:

AS MANY as 300 young Australians have left for the Middle East with hopes of joining the battles which have become some of the most savage the region has seen.

http://www.news.com.au/world/disillusioned-young-muslim-men-head-to-fight-in-middle-east/story-fndir...

I never used the word schizophrenia, but that's a pretty broad term isn't it.

A bit like backache.

***super_nova*** · ‎13-07-2014

@punch*drunk wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with bullying in school etc being a reason for men to go off and wage war against the country they were born and grew up in. The kind of hate radical extremists have is usually passed down through the generations from their parents and their parent's parents. Maybe compounded by racial intolerance, but not caused.

All the mass murdering kids in the USA have just one thing in common, they were marginalised, they were bullied as well as having mental problems; they felt done badly by their community. They did not come from families that installed hatred towards other people in them.

Radical extremist born here, UK or USA do not come from background racial or religious intolerance. Many do not even come from Muslim family, they convert much to their family's amazement.

Also, guys going to fight in Middle East are not exactly fighting against us, they are fighting against Bashar al-Assad, nasty brutal and corrupt dictator

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .

***super_nova*** · ‎13-07-2014

@icyfroth wrote:
Yeah we can. We can dump them on the country they were fighting for against the country they were drawing their pension from.

BUT, they are not fighting for a country. They are fighting against government of Syria. And why do you think they are drawing pension? There was ONE that was getting a pension for few months.

Do you think that we can just not take Australian citizen born here back just because he is doing something we do not like, and which is against our law? How about if lets say Indonesian citizen would come here, commit crime and Indonesia would say; "Oh we do not want criminals here, you have to keep him". That would not be accepted here and will not be accepted by any other country in the world.

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .

lightningdance · ‎13-07-2014

Pity he didnt practice what he preached, maybe then the problem would have been resolved with a gun or rocket.

azureline** · ‎13-07-2014

@icyfroth wrote:
Here. knock yourself out:

AS MANY as 300 young Australians have left for the Middle East with hopes of joining the battles which have become some of the most savage the region has seen.

http://www.news.com.au/world/disillusioned-young-muslim-men-head-to-fight-in-middle-east/story-fndir...

I never used the word schizophrenia, but that's a pretty broad term isn't it.

A bit like backache.

😮 not to people with diagnosed schizophrenia.... or their families, I don't think you can fake it?