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08-08-2014 05:33 PM - edited 08-08-2014 05:36 PM
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on 08-08-2014 05:38 PM
@lightningdance wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@lightningdance wrote:Lets get this straight once and for all.
You can't board a plane without a valid passport and a visa for entry into Australia.
So all the 120.000 that came in that way melted into the community and the Rudd/
Gillard fiasco did squat about it.
When will it ever end? never, like herpes Labor just keeps on giving.
No how about we get this straight -
Whilst Rudd was in ofice and the Liberal Party kept bleating on and on about "illegal" boat arrivals, Rudd continued to bring up that we had a bigger problem with LEGAL entries overstaying their visa. And there were quite a few threads about it on here too. The statistics have always been out in the open - something like 50,000 people overstay their visa every year. But why didn't Abbott think this was an issue? Oh yeah that;s right! It was/is because the majority are westerners.
The public campaign from Abbott about "Illegal" boat arrivals eclipsed any other issue.
I am wondering what Abbott/Morrison has done to address this this year. Given that they gave so much energy and thought to boat arivals, I am assuming they also addressed this issue similarly?
Perhaps Lightning or Nero could locate the policy that includes the Liberal Party's strategies on this topic?
My answer is to the topic not what you want it to be. You can't enter Australia by plane without a valid passport. Got it.?
MY answer was to the topic and not what YOU want it to be. 'Your' government ignored this problem because it was so fixated on 'Stopping the Boats!!!' that nothing else seemed to matter. Got it?
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08-08-2014 05:46 PM - edited 08-08-2014 05:48 PM
ref.: My answer is to the topic not what you want it to be. You can't enter Australia by plane without a valid passport. Got it.?
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.....err apparently you can, or we would not be having this friendly discussion......

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08-08-2014 08:37 PM - edited 08-08-2014 08:39 PM
ref. You can't enter Australia by plane without a valid passport. Got it.?
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- legally or officially acceptable."the visas are valid for thirty days"......err.....so why question question whether or not these visas are/were officially acceptable now?I think this Govt is questioning visa acceptability retrospectively.....can they do this?Must be something to do with the rushed changes to Visa Legislation that were pummelled through The House of Reps/The Senate during the end day of sitting for previous Govt .Then again Tones has a well taloned Assistant who is reknowned for producing, questionable but last minute Spoilers after the cats have bolted,in such matters.........Am betting will have to watch this space..........
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09-08-2014 04:40 AM - edited 09-08-2014 04:43 AM
supanova said:
.....I am sure some procedures can be improved, but I am also sure that the of fake passports can also become more sophisticated.
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Perhaps it is a much more 'dark' an agenda behind all this......
Perhaps this neoLib Government has an Agenda and would like for example, to aim for an all inclusive ceiling on legal immigration of say, 100,000.....they might also like to apply a 5 year Moratorium......or even try and apply all this retrospectively.
see post # 1658 in Diary of our stinking Govt.
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Diary-of-our-stinking-Govt/td-p/1173225/page/83
...."The anti-immigrant population control organization, Carrying Capacity Network (CCN), which promotes itself as a liberal environmental group, recently launched the Diversity Coalition for an Immigration Moratorium. Its goal is to bring together "ethnically and racially diverse groups and individuals" to press for an immediate five-year moratorium with a 100,000 all-inclusive ceiling on legal immigration. ....."...
