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on 28-09-2014 04:54 PM
I wonder what they will be saying in Germany when the disabilities become more apparent after the gene pool gets more and more diluted? Yes they are consenting adults, but the kids born in such a union aren't and shouldn't have to explain to people why their Father is also their Uncle (assuming that incestuous relationships are the exception rather than the norm)
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
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on 28-09-2014 05:01 PM
It's already 14 in some places. and younger in others.. What's your point?
Can you provide any proof that gay rights is in any way responsible for a law against incest being repealed? I'd also like some info on how you think it could affect the age of consent. Being that you saw these things coming a while ago you are clearly an expert on the subjects
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
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on 28-09-2014 05:50 PM
@xxpelxx wrote:Who will be able to pinpoint genetic siblings in a few years? Unless they are registered by the same parent, it will be bedlam regarding incest.
IVF, surogacy, donor eggs and sperm. All those things happening in different countries and most have no acurate way of keeping tab on proper registration.
How many sisters and brothers will become couples in future and not know how closely they are related?
It's a small world.
Erica
The possibility of that is statistically minute. But I think that genetic parents should be identified somewhere in child's records, so people can find out their genetic medical history and where their ancestors came from . Some people do not want to know, but others do. I was not overly interested until couple of years ago, and then, when I did our family tree, and hit a dead end on one branch back in early 1800s I was devastated LOL
Anyway, maybe it will be advisable in future to have genetic test done before people get married, and to determine whether people are related or not is one thing that can be done, and is not all that expensive. But as people nowadays move so much, around the country and around the world, to marry your sibling is less likely, than it would have been in the past. When people were born and died in the same town, if somebody had a child out of wedlock that child would most likely be known to the person's other kids.
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 28-09-2014 06:17 PM
@patchoo78 wrote:I wonder what they will be saying in Germany when the disabilities become more apparent after the gene pool gets more and more diluted? Yes they are consenting adults, but the kids born in such a union aren't and shouldn't have to explain to people why their Father is also their Uncle (assuming that incestuous relationships are the exception rather than the norm)
If incest between siblings was not illegsal then would explaining the father/uncle aspect of your ancestry be any more traumatic than explaining why you had two fathers or two mothers. The 'not fair on the kids' scenario was also being pushed as an argument against black/white marriages when I was a teenager in England.
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on 28-09-2014 06:42 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@xxpelxx wrote:Who will be able to pinpoint genetic siblings in a few years? Unless they are registered by the same parent, it will be bedlam regarding incest.
IVF, surogacy, donor eggs and sperm. All those things happening in different countries and most have no acurate way of keeping tab on proper registration.
How many sisters and brothers will become couples in future and not know how closely they are related?
It's a small world.
Erica
The possibility of that is statistically minute. But I think that genetic parents should be identified somewhere in child's records, so people can find out their genetic medical history and where their ancestors came from . Some people do not want to know, but others do. I was not overly interested until couple of years ago, and then, when I did our family tree, and hit a dead end on one branch back in early 1800s I was devastated LOL
Anyway, maybe it will be advisable in future to have genetic test done before people get married, and to determine whether people are related or not is one thing that can be done, and is not all that expensive. But as people nowadays move so much, around the country and around the world, to marry your sibling is less likely, than it would have been in the past. When people were born and died in the same town, if somebody had a child out of wedlock that child would most likely be known to the person's other kids.
Donor eggs/sperm is recorded in Australia. You also need to agree to tell the child at 16 if they are the result of a donor