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on 15-10-2014 07:15 PM
Don't be mean to poddster - he's my bestie. ![]()
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on 15-10-2014 07:20 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:I'd like you to refer back to Bobs comment at Post number 69.
And if you are really clueless about the racial attitude of those that support it (which I know you are not as you are too intelligent not to see what I am seeing), then I suggest you read the anti-muslim vomit currently being spewed on the Woolies FB page. Our most prized racists are on there making an immediate connection to the muslim community.
That's individuation. One makes a connection and the rest of the crowd jumps on board.
It is also a generalisation on your part.
It's not a shirt I would buy, but if given as a gift, I would have worn it and would have never made the connection between the slogan and Muslims specifically. As I said, I interpreted the shirt as being a message for anyone who didn't like Australia, not one specific sub group of our country.
Muslims are apparently flavour of the month. If this had happened back when people were upset about Humphrey Bear (or was it Fat Cat?) not wearing pants, or the debates about golliwogs or Bill and Ben, then that would be what was top of mind. People would be slamming Woolworths for stocking those products instead and twisting the scenario to suit the popular wagon at that time.
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on 15-10-2014 07:24 PM
Martini, there is no person on this board who could even come close to being mean to me.
The slings and arrows that can penetrate my impervious sheild of knowledge have not yet been invented.
Some have tried, only to find that whatever they sling only reflects upon them. 🙂
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15-10-2014 07:31 PM - edited 15-10-2014 07:33 PM
@poddster wrote:Flattery from you Martini? But I must say that I agree with you assessment of my intelligence 🙂
Now the issue just because some uninformed people who are a bit intellectually challenged and jump on a non-existant band waggon to enjoy a free ride to fame are indicating the there is prejudicial potential in the Australian flag that does not make it so.
What are you talking about? Who said, or indicated, there was prejudicial potential in the Australian Flag anywhere in this thread?
Are you talking in terms of offence to the Aboriginal people?
The conversation is about a tee shirt slogan not the flag.
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on 15-10-2014 07:42 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@lightningdance wrote:Woolworths fbook page has gone viral against the knee jerk reaction to a T shirt.
I hope everybody boycotts Woolworth's for this stupidity. At least a boycott that means something to everybody and not just the elitists.
It says much about this issue that almost every comment on the Woolies FB site mention halal product as an issue also at the same time as complaining about the withdrawal of the tshirt.
What does that tell you?
It tells me that the Tshirts message is being read in a certain way about a certain 'race' and that it has everything to do with the political climate in this country at the moment.
Some typical responses on FB:
You promote Ramadan Easter Christmas and pay a tax for halal certification yet stocking a t shirt that's not offensive whatsoever will not be re stocked due to the minority who are trying to change Australia's values?
It would seem woolworths is not out to support Aussies, seeing they now have halal meat too !
If your going to pull the shirt off pull all your Halal Products that are offensive to Australians. Cant have it both ways you either support Australia or you dont
yet you allow halal certified food.. how is that respectful to us non muslims....
Plus a few hundred more sprouting the same garbage.
But apparently only the enlightened ones on CS see it as a separate issue that has nothing to do with racism and therefore find the tshirt perfectly acceptable on it's own merits.
pardon me for coming in late. Been busy all day.
You promote Ramadan Easter Christmas and pay a tax for halal certification yet stocking a t shirt that's not offensive whatsoever will not be re stocked due to the minority who are trying to change Australia's values?
It would seem woolworths is not out to support Aussies, seeing they now have halal meat too !
If your going to pull the shirt off pull all your Halal Products that are offensive to Australians. Cant have it both ways you either support Australia or you dont
yet you allow halal certified food.. how is that respectful to us non muslims....
All of the above comments are true though, aren't they?
Woolworths just quietly introduces halal products, paying taxes for it which they recoup by screwing the Aussie farmers to the point of suicide, not a care in the world about how Aussies feel offended by it, yet a small minority profess outrage at this T-shirt/Singlet and they immediately pull if off the shelves.
Get real.
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on 15-10-2014 07:44 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:The conversation is about a tee shirt slogan not the flag.
I think the conversation is about a t shirt slogan when used in association with the flag.
Had the flag not have been used, I doubt there would have been any racial connection made.
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on 15-10-2014 07:51 PM
@pct001wine wrote:Icy, I posted that pic to highlight what I saw in a piece of clothing that was the antithesis of the divisive t-shirt posted in the OP.
Nah I don't think so. It's just as divisive. The difference is that WW don't stock it and nor do Aldi.
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on 15-10-2014 07:54 PM
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on 15-10-2014 07:57 PM
@muppet_detector wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:The conversation is about a tee shirt slogan not the flag.
I think the conversation is about a t shirt slogan when used in association with the flag.
Had the flag not have been used, I doubt there would have been any racial connection made.
True we are talking about a tee shirt slogan with the flag. Nonbody said the flag itself was potentially prejudicial, as was the claim I responded to.
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15-10-2014 08:00 PM - edited 15-10-2014 08:00 PM
@kilroy_is_here wrote:
If the spelling police are on the come back then I'm out of here
They'd make lots of arrests, kilroy lol
