@muppet_detector wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

I think any person who decides they don't like Australia (for any reason at all, lack of employment opportunities in their field, climate, ) can decide themselves if they want to move to another overseas country if they can get visa & employment there, or return to a country they may have originated from...they don't need bogans wearing navy blue singlets with slogans telling them to.

 

If a lot of educated, experienced in their field, people left Australia this country would suffer from 'brain drain'.


Do you think that any person worth their salt will be concerned enough to make life choices after reading a slogan on a t shirt worn by a "bogan"?

 

Any person, regardless of their education or experience will determine if the opportunities available to them suit their needs or at least suit them better than elsewhere, and if not, they will leave, regardless of whether it is written on a singlet, the side of a building or in sky writing 100 ft high.


Singlet slogan - says love it or leave... that doesnt mean I thought it would influence anyone to leave the country. 

 

So, what is the point of the bogan wearing the slogan singlet.. do THEY think is going to have some influence on groups of people they don't want in Australia, and make them pack up and leave. 

 

well I guess the owner of the telegraph and the unAustralian doesn't love Australia then.


@karliandjacko wrote:

@muppet_detector wrote:

@karliandjacko wrote:

@daydream**believer wrote:

"It's not a shirt I would buy, but if given as a gift, I would have worn it and would have never made the connection between the slogan and Muslims specifically. As I said, I interpreted the shirt as being a message for anyone who didn't like Australia, not one specific sub group of our country."

 

 

My thoughts exactly. English, Chinese, Greek, French even fellow Aussies, if you dont like it here, leave.

 

 


Why should we  leave? I think we should stay and try to change what we don't like.


which infers that there is more here that you do like than dislike.

 

An enterprise as large as an entire country with 22 million people cannot have every attribute that suits every member of the population all of the time. But if most of the things are the way you like them, and there are opportunities to make certain aspects suit your individual needs, then go for it, otherwise - leave.

 

Australia is about what is best or most suitable for the greatest number of the 22 million people that choose to live here, it is not about what is best for the individual.

 

 


It infers nothing of the sort.  *** Sorry, I read that infers the wrong way around  ***

 

The only comment I made is that I don't LOVE the Aussie flag. From that other posters have taken it upon themselves to claim that I said I don't like the flag, don't like the country, hate the flag, hate the country. and whatever else takes their fancy.

 

I said nothing of the sort.   It's none of yours or any other posters business to tell me to leave this country. It is hostile and it is uncalled for.

 

You don't think people have changed the country since white settlement.  Try checking out a bit of our history then come back and tell me if the movers and shakers should have left the country instead of changing things.  

 

Then again it looks like some would be happy to live in the past where women were not allowed to vote or work after marriage; would be happier if we had no electricity supply or sewerage systems; treated and labelled the aboriginal population as fauna;  asked permission from the UK before making decisions.


Hey???

 

I couldn't care less if you loved the flag or not. ( i assume here you refer to the design of it). That's subjectly superficial. Some have emotional investment in the design of the flag, some don't. The flag is so much more than a design on a piece of fabric.

 

 

BTW, at a technical level, we do still ask for permission from the UK before making a decision. Before any new law is brought into force, it must be given assent by the Queen's representative. OK, just a formality these days, but still - the implication is still there.


@karliandjacko wrote:

@bushies.girl wrote:
But calling another person a bogan is ok?

Where did a poster call another poster a bogan?

 

Bogan has been used as a general term not directed other posters.


as has the slogan on the shirt in question.

anyway lovely people.

 

Im outta here. Taking my family on a holiday.

Daughter has a lovely black singlet to wear and i have a lovely navy one (no slogan on it though)

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@karliandjacko wrote:

@muppet_detector wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

I think any person who decides they don't like Australia (for any reason at all, lack of employment opportunities in their field, climate, ) can decide themselves if they want to move to another overseas country if they can get visa & employment there, or return to a country they may have originated from...they don't need bogans wearing navy blue singlets with slogans telling them to.

 

If a lot of educated, experienced in their field, people left Australia this country would suffer from 'brain drain'.


Do you think that any person worth their salt will be concerned enough to make life choices after reading a slogan on a t shirt worn by a "bogan"?

 

Any person, regardless of their education or experience will determine if the opportunities available to them suit their needs or at least suit them better than elsewhere, and if not, they will leave, regardless of whether it is written on a singlet, the side of a building or in sky writing 100 ft high.


So you are in agreement with am.


Quite the contrary.

 

am seems to believe that educated and experienced people will make life choices based on what they read on a t shirt.


@muppet_detector wrote:

@karliandjacko wrote:

@bushies.girl wrote:
But calling another person a bogan is ok?

Where did a poster call another poster a bogan?

 

Bogan has been used as a general term not directed other posters.


as has the slogan on the shirt in question.


BRAVO muppet

 

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DDB, get creative and add a slogan. get some adventure into your lives 🙂

 

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.


@punch*drunk wrote:

Bluey singlet comp, am this must be your worst nightmare....lol

 

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that or the body of a male which is fit and ripped.


@muppet_detector wrote:

@karliandjacko wrote:

@muppet_detector wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

I think any person who decides they don't like Australia (for any reason at all, lack of employment opportunities in their field, climate, ) can decide themselves if they want to move to another overseas country if they can get visa & employment there, or return to a country they may have originated from...they don't need bogans wearing navy blue singlets with slogans telling them to.

 

If a lot of educated, experienced in their field, people left Australia this country would suffer from 'brain drain'.


Do you think that any person worth their salt will be concerned enough to make life choices after reading a slogan on a t shirt worn by a "bogan"?

 

Any person, regardless of their education or experience will determine if the opportunities available to them suit their needs or at least suit them better than elsewhere, and if not, they will leave, regardless of whether it is written on a singlet, the side of a building or in sky writing 100 ft high.


So you are in agreement with am.


Quite the contrary.

 

am seems to believe that educated and experienced people will make life choices based on what they read on a t shirt.


Actually she indicated the opposite belief in saying people can decide for themselves without the need for bogans wearing slogans to inform them.