There are business decisions made for the making of money through out history. No surprises as far as I'm concerned.

..... Just don't tell me we didn't land on the moon.

There are business decisions made for the making of money through out history. No surprises as far as I'm concerned.

 

A business decision isn't exactly how I would put it, and making money was down on the list of motivations for the false flag on 9/11 of 2001. It was about justifying a series of wars partly designed to make money, take away and errode freedoms and rights mostly in America, tward a goal of humanity's depopulation. The ones who staged this can print up their own money, all they need, it's only paper after all, They want the planet for themselves and to rid it of us useless eaters consumming the resorces. Agenda 21, planed communitys, fusion and residential centers. 7 billion + people and I'm not exactly sure what they want to take it down to, but it's my guess the ones that best serve the globalists, and willingly give up their rights and freedoms will be the ones who get to live.

 

 

Just don't tell me we didn't land on the moon. 

 

It was possible at the time, and I don't see any valid reason to lie about it, so no, I won't tell you people never went to the moon. Fat lot of good it did though, we can't build houses and live there, farm, ect.

"It was possible at the time, and I don't see any valid reason to lie about it, so no, I won't tell you people never went to the moon. Fat lot of good it did though, we can't build houses and live there, farm, ect."

Wait a minute Joanie, don't be so "anti"...... We've leaned/benefitted from NASA/space program. And I'm all for it!


"A business decision isn't exactly how I would put it, and making money was down on the list of motivations for the false flag on 9/11 of 2001. It was about justifying a series of wars partly designed to make money, take away and errode freedoms and rights mostly in America, tward a goal of humanity's depopulation. The ones who staged this can print up their own money, all they need, it's only paper after all, They want the planet for themselves and to rid it of us useless eaters consumming the resorces. Agenda 21, planed communitys, fusion and residential centers. 7 billion + people and I'm not exactly sure what they want to take it down to, but it's my guess the ones that best serve the globalists, and willingly give up their rights and freedoms will be the ones who get to live."

I've heard all this before along with the secret society's ...... I doubt it will ever happen!!

I've heard all this before along with the secret society's . I doubt it will ever happen!   

 

 

Hope your right, but I have seen too many examples where it has happened and is happening. They spin it around like saying freedom means that your a slave, the 2ed amendment means you can't have guns, the 4th amendment means we have the right to search you for your own protection. Thats what ya gotta love, cops now will beat or shoot you to death for your own protection. lol

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4

 

even with all the evedence,

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgMCw2-aJ0

 

people still rather go by the official story. Why? I don't get it.

 

 

Wait a minute Joanie, don't be so "anti"...... We've leaned/benefitted from NASA/space program. And I'm all for it!

 

 

I'm not against Space exploration, but we have gotten far more from unmaned satilites and probes than with people going out there. We know enough now to tell us that anything worth exploring is too far away until we can advance much better modes of transport. We need to devote what little resorces we do have into the preservation of the only planet within our reach capable of supporting our lives. Unless someone invents the warp drive, something similar, or finds a way to teraform the moon or Mars, to make it more earth like, it's a waste of resorces. Devote those resorces to that advancment right here on earth, then use that to go looking around in space.

 

if we do meet other inteligent life and communicate with them what must they think of us, how we do things here.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-IsMD9rswk

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6yaeD-E_MY

 

We are not ready, how do you explain things like smoking and drug habits, senseless wars, what we let police and globalists get away with to what likely be a far more advanced culture?

From our exploration in manned or unmanned science, man and earth has benefitted. It's a matter of man using the info to progress.

My point is earth/man can benefit in all ways from our space program.

My point is earth/man can benefit in all ways from our space program. 

 

I don't doubt it but do we still have a space program? I thought it had been disbanded.

 

My point in this topic was is that no one killed Bin Laden, least not in that raid they tell you about. He died from illness long before. They used him as a figurehead to justify wars and take away American rights. DHS, the patriot act, NDAA, ect.. UN troops train with local police in exersizes and civil unrest drills. It's real, it's happening, has been since before the 9/11 attacks.

Joanie,

I understand your concern about the Patriot act, it's been given this name making one think it's great for the county but in depth I agree if enforced it could be detrimental to people's rights away. But they haven't, and don't think they ever will.

Have you lost any of your rights? I agree with you on keeping an eye out for changes in life as we know it in the states. Nothing wrong with you being vigilant. We all should.

Sorry for a bit of OT.

Have you lost any of your rights?

 

By that definition, yes, i have.

 

I guess it depends on how you see it. I don't believe anyone can possibly lose their "natural", or if you prefer, "God given" rights. I know how they are outlined on paper in the bill of rights, or the first 10 amendments to the US constitution. They are human rights and can't be taken, but they can be violated, and my rights are always being violated, by police, by judges, by laws, presidential exectutive orders, ect.

 

The things that have happened to me alone would easally make the case for how endangered freedom is, or at least mine, but there's also, Kelly Thomas and John T Williams, what happened durring Katrina, and so many other examples and thats just known ones. what of all the things news don't cover or we don't hear about? Theres litterally thousands of victims of police who are protected by a corrupt system.

 

But even if it wasn't, even if we all still had our rights and they were not being violated as a matter of procudure, it don't change the fact that eliments of whats supposed to be our own government, took down those buldings killing all those people in an attempt to take or violate our rights.

 

If you ask, you'll find a desturbing number of people don't even know what their rights are, or that they have them. Many others who do know what they are are under the mistaken impression that the government gave them those rights, rather than being born with them, what comes with being human. All this and maybe other world governments did was write them down and interpret them a certain way. Rights are always being violated, not everyones, or all the time but it's happening.

 

When everythings against the law, everyone will be a criminal. When the laws no longer apply to those enforcing them, nothing they ever do to us can be considered wrong.