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on 14-11-2014 05:31 PM
@2106greencat wrote:As the OP seems quite knowledgable, may I please ask a question of you OP ?
Each year, the birth of Christ is celebrated on 25 th December.......(without fail, no deviation).....
and yet Easter (crusifiction 25 years later) changes from year to year according to the stars ?(or so I was told)
So, how is it that the calander was more reliable (for the birth) than the death 25 years later.?
Just wondering...I have asked many visitors to my front door over the years to help me understand this anomaly, but none seem willing to do so.
I am not the OP and you're not likely to see me at your door, but I'll offer an explanation.
The death of Christ is KNOW - it was Nisan 14 according to the Jewish Calendar. The Jewish Calendar was not like ours with 365 / 366 days per year and so the equivalant of Nisan 14 occurs on different days each year. With xmas, because it was not a Jewish or a Christian celebration there is no equivalant Jewish date. Indeed Xmas was added much later by The Roman Church and the date was set on a corresponding date of a Pagan celebration - NOT Jesus birthday at all. As you will note, it occurs on 25th December each year - different days - but 25/12. The other point is that Jesus commanded his apostles to celebrate his death. No-where does he ask them to celebrate his birth.
Does that help?
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on 14-11-2014 05:32 PM
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on 14-11-2014 05:33 PM
sorry ele, didn't mean to step on your response - I am a slow typer
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on 14-11-2014 05:34 PM
@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@2106greencat wrote:As the OP seems quite knowledgable, may I please ask a question of you OP ?
Each year, the birth of Christ is celebrated on 25 th December.......(without fail, no deviation).....
and yet Easter (crusifiction 25 years later) changes from year to year according to the stars ?(or so I was told)
So, how is it that the calander was more reliable (for the birth) than the death 25 years later.?
Just wondering...I have asked many visitors to my front door over the years to help me understand this anomaly, but none seem willing to do so.
OP while you are at it.
Could you please explain a question I have since my teens.
The Garden of Eden, Adam & Eve, ( forget the snake & apple ).
Those two lovers had 2 sons - Cain & Abel.
Cain the first human born, Abel the first human to die. ( His brother Cain did him in ).
This leaves Cain.
And
Only
EVE.
Did they date, if not - where did the rest of us come from.
Here is not the time to bring in Aliens.
Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters .
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on 14-11-2014 05:37 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@2106greencat wrote:As the OP seems quite knowledgable, may I please ask a question of you OP ?
Each year, the birth of Christ is celebrated on 25 th December.......(without fail, no deviation).....
and yet Easter (crusifiction 25 years later) changes from year to year according to the stars ?(or so I was told)
So, how is it that the calander was more reliable (for the birth) than the death 25 years later.?
Just wondering...I have asked many visitors to my front door over the years to help me understand this anomaly, but none seem willing to do so.
OP while you are at it.
Could you please explain a question I have since my teens.
The Garden of Eden, Adam & Eve, ( forget the snake & apple ).
Those two lovers had 2 sons - Cain & Abel.
Cain the first human born, Abel the first human to die. ( His brother Cain did him in ).
This leaves Cain.
And
Only
EVE.
Did they date, if not - where did the rest of us come from.
Here is not the time to bring in Aliens.
Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters .
Ah, OK.
Then that explains the incest.
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on 14-11-2014 05:48 PM
@2106greencat wrote:As the OP seems quite knowledgable, may I please ask a question of you OP ?
Each year, the birth of Christ is celebrated on 25 th December.......(without fail, no deviation).....
and yet Easter (crusifiction 25 years later) changes from year to year according to the stars ?(or so I was told)
So, how is it that the calander was more reliable (for the birth) than the death 25 years later.?
Just wondering...I have asked many visitors to my front door over the years to help me understand this anomaly, but none seem willing to do so.
Firstly you need to understand that Easter and Chrismas were originlly pagan holidays.
Easter is celebrated the same as The Passover.The Passover was an original Jewish festival that celebrated God killing the first born of Egypt and getting the release of the people from the slavery.
Easter was a festival of a false god of fertility and not celebrated by Hebrews.
Christmas also was not a festival celebrated by Hebrews but also a pagan festival .
Easter and Christmas were adopted to placate and bring pagans into the church.Originally the idea of doing this was probably not pure.
However they were taken and eventually used to Honour YHWH.So now their pagan origins are unimportant.
Christmas day was designated as the Birthday of Jesus although it cannot be correct but is just a date they agreed on.
The actual date using the Bible as a guide appears to be between the 8th May and 11th june (our calendar).
So to answer your question.
Christmas is a fixed dat that has nothing to do with the Old Testament festivals which were celebrated according to a lunar calendar.Christmas is fixed on a particular day.Because Easter equals Passover it is on the times that Passover is on.
I hope that answers.
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on 14-11-2014 05:51 PM
@cmcoins2000 wrote:
@2106greencat wrote:As the OP seems quite knowledgable, may I please ask a question of you OP ?
Each year, the birth of Christ is celebrated on 25 th December.......(without fail, no deviation).....
and yet Easter (crusifiction 25 years later) changes from year to year according to the stars ?(or so I was told)
So, how is it that the calander was more reliable (for the birth) than the death 25 years later.?
Just wondering...I have asked many visitors to my front door over the years to help me understand this anomaly, but none seem willing to do so.
OP while you are at it.
Could you please explain a question I have since my teens.
The Garden of Eden, Adam & Eve, ( forget the snake & apple ).
Those two lovers had 2 sons - Cain & Abel.
Cain the first human born, Abel the first human to die. ( His brother Cain did him in ).
This leaves Cain.
And
Only
EVE.
Did they date, if not - where did the rest of us come from.
Here is not the time to bring in Aliens.
Genesis 5:3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
Adam had many sons and daughters.
The rest came from those sons and daughters,the same place that Cain took a wife from,either a sister or niece.
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on 14-11-2014 05:53 PM
Yep, that makes sense.
One of the 10.
Though shalt not covet thy neighbours wife.
SHE IS YOUR SISTER.
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on 14-11-2014 06:10 PM
Thanks she elle,
I have heard that befoe, I just kinda thought if there was a certain way of following dates back then, it should be uniform...........
unless of course the fact that December wasn't even a month in those days meant they just guessed it..........
but surely, it was all Recorded in some Book so that it could be passed down (correctly) through the ages ???
You can't please all the people all the time, so now I just please myself
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on 14-11-2014 06:15 PM
As to the Adam, Eve, Rib, Cain and Abel thing, yeah - that's where I kinda lost it I have to say....
These days we put pedofiles and incestrous rapists away.......
You can't please all the people all the time, so now I just please myself