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on 19-12-2014 05:09 PM
And of course labour has a lot to answer for, giving these people hope that made more come, only to shove them in camps.
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on 19-12-2014 05:13 PM
Joono at least there are some wonderful people fighting for the asylum seekers - Julian Burnside and Kon Karapanagiotidis supported by thousands of others
Good news about the little babies - for now.
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on 19-12-2014 05:17 PM
@poddster wrote:Does it matter to you Donna?
All that happened a while ago and since then I have integrated 100% to my adopted country and have fought for it and bled for it. What about you?
And the rest of you, what have YOU done for YOUR country?
Myself - I admit - very little.
I paid my taxes - every dam*n cent.
I do consider though - I paid in my youth.
I was fathered by a lovely man whose life was cut short by history.
He was a POW for 4 years - years that had a decided effect on him - he was a quiet man - a thoughtful man - a solitary man.
He passed away at 65 - far too soon for me to forgive.
I do not believe in the sins of the fathers - my daughter shares my Australian blood with her father's German blood.
So what I have done for my country - again - very little.
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19-12-2014 05:21 PM - edited 19-12-2014 05:23 PM
i don't believe those letters are genuine at all.
they read as contrived by someone with a clear mind and the agenda of taking shots at the Australian government, not someone in total despair with no clear alternative in their thoughts but to end their life
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on 19-12-2014 05:29 PM
Totally agree with you Pepe. The writer seem to have a good grasp of the English language too, maybe just a bit too god a grasp.
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on 19-12-2014 05:29 PM
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on 19-12-2014 05:36 PM
@poddster wrote:The writer seem to have a good grasp of the English language too, maybe just a bit too god a grasp.
Many people who are coming from Iran are educated, English speaking, and some are also Christians. So, what is your problem; mostly people are complaining that the refugees do not want to learn English, and when some actually do speak English then apparently it is fishy?
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 19-12-2014 05:42 PM
@aps1080 wrote:
I will ask the guy I know who manages one of the camps about what he knows about the letters.
And of course to suggest they get shut down.
So, you think that you have the right to tell the refugees they are not allowed to write letters? Even the worst convicted criminal has a right to write letters. Do you really hate these people so much? Why, because they escaped persecution and in many cases torture and hope to build life for themselves and their family?
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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19-12-2014 05:47 PM - edited 19-12-2014 05:50 PM
We have a system in place that they bypassed so now
They cop the consequences.
You cant have it both ways.
Genuine refugees are granted asylum.
The rest spin some good stories that make it sound worse than it is.
While they are in a camp, they can be told to do anything.
Play the game, ok, cause trouble, on yer bike.
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on 19-12-2014 05:48 PM
s_n, do you actually believe that letters like the ones posted here are genuine?
It is so obvious that they are contrived solely for the purpose of trying to influence the opinion of gullible people who will swallow anything that is even remotely emotive.
Perhaps they would carry a bit more credibility if the were authenticated, which they are not.
and by the way who are the letter written to?
If they are private what are they doing in a public forum?
If they are not private then what is the motive behind them?