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on 11-02-2015 07:27 PM
icy wrote:
The US have refused entry visas in the past just because of the charge.
Australians don't need a visa to enter the US (for up to 90 days). They are required to apply for authorization for entry online through the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA), are screened at their port of entry into the United States, and are enrolled in the Department of Homeland Security’s US-VISIT program.
If a declaration of charge without conviction is required when applying through ETSA for entry.. that doesn't automatically mean the applicant person won't be allowed to enter.. depends on the type of crime.
humanrights.gov.au
5.3 How much is a job applicant required to disclose?
If a criminal record is relevant to a position, and an employee decides to volunteer information or is asked, he or she still may not have to disclose the complete criminal record. Exactly what information they are required to disclose depends on a variety of circumstances.
Generally, where there has been a finding of guilt but no conviction is recorded (for example when the offender is placed on a good behaviour bond but no conviction is recorded), and depending on what information is requested from the employer, a job applicant may not need to disclose this guilty finding. The situation might change if an employer specifically asks about ‘findings of guilt, with or without conviction’.
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on 11-02-2015 07:32 PM
@idlewhile wrote:You’d know wouldn’t you, most of what you write would fill those buckets.
Maybe that's because you don't take the time and effort to digest it properly. ![]()
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on 11-02-2015 07:51 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:She didn't "hack", she accessed information after logging in as another.
@icyfroth wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:What's the major problem with what Freya did?
Is it that she targeted an Abbott?
Is it that she questioned the process of awarding a non-advertised, non-existant to other students scholarship?
Is it that she dared to step outside her box instead of protecting the rights to secrecy of underhand deals of the born to rulers?
It's all a bit puzzling.
you seem to get confused and puzzled a lot.
It's the fact that she hacked into someone else's email to gain personal information (which is a chargable offence) to pass on to to a publisher who she knew would use the information against the Prime Minister and his family.
Gets charged but walks away without conviction because the judge took into her account her youth and her future career.
Then after all that gets a job in POLITICS where there is constant investigation into spying and newsleaks and phone-bugging incidents.
The Greens obviously thought she was highly qualified for the job. She'll fit
She'll make a career for herself alright. She'll fit right in.
Walked away a bit like Peta Credlin walked away from drink driving charges. Perhaps it's not uncommon for people to receive light sentences when they are not habitual offenders and have good prospects. With all the money spent on anti drink driving campaigns what were they thinking in keeping Credlin on instead of sending her to prison where many other offenders would end up.Is Freya standing for election? I thought she accepted an electorate position. My mistake.
It's not drink driving. It's not assault. No she's not standing for election.
It's the fact that she's a known spy who passes on information to the media. THAT's what makes her appointment as a staffer in a political party so unpalatable.
So a bit like the plant Brough sent to work in Slipper's office to spy on him and help get him evicted. James Ashby ring any bells?
Yes exactly like that as a matter of fact.
Which proves my point that Ms Newman will fit into politics very well. In other words, she has shown she has no problem with betraying trust.
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on 11-02-2015 07:59 PM
Freya blew the whistle on a shady deal that should have been declared by the would be PM. AShby was brought in to bring down the govt. The intentions were vastly different. One was in the public interest while the other was in the LNP's interest.
So no, they are not very similar at all really.
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on 11-02-2015 08:06 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:Freya blew the whistle on a shady deal that should have been declared by the would be PM. AShby was brought in to bring down the govt. The intentions were vastly different. One was in the public interest while the other was in the LNP's interest.
So no, they are not very similar at all really.
Be that as it may, it's beside the point.
The point is, she has shown herself to betray trust by hacking into another person's email to obtain information which she then supplied to a media publication which she most likely knew would broadcast it nationwide.
She was charged in the courts and placed on a good behaviour because of those actions.
Despite that, or because of that, the Greens Party have snapped her up as an intern.
I mean, really?
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on 11-02-2015 08:09 PM
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on 11-02-2015 08:19 PM
Despite that, or because of that, the Greens Party have snapped her up as an intern.
I mean, really?
I acknowledge you have an issue with that
Personally I see no wrong in anyone offering her a job, including the Greens Party ( a part time job).
Some employers may think they wouldn't trust her, others wouldn't have a problem. Their choice.
How did she get the staff members log on details at the private college? Were they not kept securely or did the other person not mind if she 'borrowed' them?
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on 11-02-2015 08:30 PM
@am*3 wrote:Despite that, or because of that, the Greens Party have snapped her up as an intern.
I mean, really?
I acknowledge you have an issue with that
Personally I see no wrong in anyone offering her a job, including the Greens Party ( a part time job).
Some employers may think they wouldn't trust her, others wouldn't have a problem. Their choice.
How did she get the staff members log on details at the private college? Were they not kept securely or did the other person not mind if she 'borrowed' them?
"How did she get the staff members log on details at the private college? Were they not kept securely or did the other person not mind if she 'borrowed' them?"
You'd wonder at that wouldn't you?
You'd also wonder at the Matilda publication's involvement in it.
And Freya's motiviation in putting her reputation on the line in order to carry out her assignment. She must have been given some promises.
Not to mention the Green's putting her on staff.
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on 11-02-2015 08:35 PM
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11-02-2015 08:44 PM - edited 11-02-2015 08:46 PM
You'd also wonder at the Matilda publication's involvement in it.
No, I wouldn't wonder at that at all. Independent newspapers in Australia do a good job - publishing stories exposing a PM's daughter getting a $60 000 scholarship (not on merit) and exposing Prof. Barry Spurr.... look forward to what they come up with this year.
I already posted that I have no problem with the Greens or any other employer giving Freya a job.. she isn't a mass murderer or international drug ring leader! Have some perspective.
