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on 20-02-2015 01:21 PM
@idlewhile wrote:
He will kill these two Australians and he will kill hundreds more. He's a monster, humanity is a quality he lacks:
Americans also execute people, they also hold people without charges, or proof of any wrong doing, and torture them for years; does the above apply to them? Or is it only when Australians are involved, or is it only when Indonesia is involved?
Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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on 20-02-2015 01:56 PM
Indonesia is a very wealthy country with millions more people than Australia.
Strangest thing I have read all day. Millions of people in a country, makes it wealthy? Chortle.
Australia does not give Aid to wealthy countries.
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on 20-02-2015 02:00 PM
Of course the PM does more harm than help.
The Australian
Delicate dance of diplomacy beyond flat-footed Abbott
THE only way that Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran can be spared is if Joko Widodo is able to change his decision without being seen to have had a change of mind. He has to be able to save face.
Bellowing at Indonesia or issuing not so subtle threats will not work.
What the Prime Minister needs to do is instruct Julie Bishop to hot-foot it to Jakarta, accompanied by advisers who understand the psyche that underlies Indonesian society, to meet her Indonesian counterpart to explore how the President can change his mind without being seen to do so. Not an easy assignment but not impossible.
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on 20-02-2015 02:05 PM
I really thought, for such a delicate situation, surely someone would have written a clear and concise, gospel truth speech for him.
Seems I was wrong.
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on 20-02-2015 02:27 PM
@am*3 wrote:Indonesia is a very wealthy country with millions more people than Australia.
Strangest thing I have read all day. Millions of people in a country, makes it wealthy? Chortle.
Australia does not give Aid to wealthy countries.
I've already tried to find out what that was about, but I was ignored.
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on 20-02-2015 02:28 PM
Yep, high on assumptions & accusations, light on details/facts.
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on 20-02-2015 02:35 PM
@azureline** wrote:I really thought, for such a delicate situation, surely someone would have written a clear and concise, gospel truth speech for him.
Seems I was wrong.
In reality he is only saying what he thinks people want to hear. He is doing what he does best when he says he cares about the 2 on death row, telling fibs.
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on 20-02-2015 02:36 PM
I heard an Indonesian journalist in discussion in which he said that, unlike his predecessor, Widodo is 100% focussed on domestic affairs and is not interested in external issues, so is unlikely to even listen to arguments from other countries.
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on 20-02-2015 04:33 PM
@am*3 wrote:Yep, high on assumptions & accusations, light on details/facts.
Indeed......The word fictitious comes to my mind ..........someone people just don't like their neighbours for other reasons.
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on 20-02-2015 05:10 PM
Humanity is a quality sadly lacking in most of the responses on here.
And talking about USA? I am addressing the impending death of TWO AUSTRALIANS facing the firing squad.
This is not an Abbott hate thread tho I'm sure you all know that as well.
Try to curb your appalling bias and address the topic.