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on 25-02-2015 10:28 PM
Did I say I have not read the report?
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on 25-02-2015 10:29 PM
@vicr3000 wrote:
Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.
She is now a distraction to the HR cause.
If you are talking about the chair of the commission her name is Professor Triggs.
When did the gov general resign? Why hasn't that made the news?
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on 25-02-2015 10:29 PM
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on 25-02-2015 10:30 PM
@poddster wrote:Did I say I have not read the report?
You don't have to. It is very clear you haven't.
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on 25-02-2015 10:30 PM
@poddster wrote:Once again I ask, what are the details of the abuse and who were the children abused by.
Just the facts and no some airy fairy convoluted jargon in political doubletalk or psychological hooha
Just the bruises and the people who caused then will do
It's not about bruises poddster.
Whilst there was abuse (sexual, physical and self abuse) occurring to unprotected children in detention, the abuse took many forms - lack of medical attention, no psychologically asistance, lack of professinal care etc.
The sections on childrens mental health and the lack of protection, support and assistance is paticularly horrendous.
Again, here is the report. It's not nice bed time reading: https://www.humanrights.gov.au/sites/default/files/document/publication/forgotten_children_2014.pdf
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on 25-02-2015 10:31 PM
@vicr3000 wrote:
Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.
She is now a distraction to the HR cause.
And all these children and abuse issues wouldn't have occurred if the boats had been stopped earlier,
instead of letting them come by the thousands.
Why should she resign??
And which Governor General resigned and what for???
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25-02-2015 10:35 PM - edited 25-02-2015 10:37 PM
@gleee58 wrote:
@vicr3000 wrote:
Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.
She is now a distraction to the HR cause.
If you are talking about the chair of the commission her name is Professor Triggs.
When did the gov general resign? Why hasn't that made the news?
I said OFFER to resign, not that she did.
The previous Govenor general, Quentin Bryce, offered to resign when it looked like Bill Shorten would become
opposition leader "to avoid any perception of bias."
But Abbott declined the offer and asked her to serve the rest of her term, which of course she did.
(The GG was already on an extended term anyway which Abbott approved so a good outcome all round)
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25-02-2015 10:37 PM - edited 25-02-2015 10:38 PM
Apologies about GG. I missed the bit that said "offered". The only GG that I know who resigned was Hollingsworth.
And why should Triggs resign from a job where she has been very successful in the role and is highly respected by all except a handful of Liberal leaders who have a weird grudge against her?
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on 25-02-2015 10:38 PM
The report, like any other report, is steeped in ambiguity and is a document like most other reports that are designed to keep the bum of the writer firmly implanted in the seat that they occupy.
Verbose to the extreme with no substance. And not only verbose but convoluted to such an extent that it can be everything or nothing to each individual reader.
Like astrology.
Is Triggs Gemini? 🙂
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on 25-02-2015 10:41 PM
@poddster wrote:The report, like any other report, is steeped in ambiguity and is a document like most other reports that are designed to keep the bum of the writer firmly implanted in the seat that they occupy.
Verbose to the extreme with no substance. And not only verbose but convoluted to such an extent that it can be everything or nothing to each individual reader.
Like astrology.
Is Triggs Gemini? 🙂
Ok. It is a lot to read. But it is only your opinion. I am not sure what ambiquity you refer to? It seems like a fairly well set out and clear report to me.
Perhaps you should go direct to the case studies if it is all a bit too "verbose"? Those case studies are pretty frank.