LOL, dont make me laugh, in your dreams.

One thing I leant a long time ago is lots of laws but very little enforcement.
Spin a few 'sorry's' etc etc...

We used to have a saying, 'what are they gong to do, take your birthday away' ?


BTW, If that is hate speech, i hate to think what the Muslims chant is.

Vicr3000.........as a Tasmanian I find your comments stupid and offensive.

"At least half of Tasmania's population can't read or write properly"

 

What a gross exageration and fabricated article that is and entirely unsubstantiated.  It's laughable and so clearly a biased and bigotted attitude towards the Tasmanian/Australian people who live here.

 

The same problems of literacy/numeracy are to be found everywhere within the whole country and it doesn't matter where it is, the problems are identical, even within the larger populations.

 

It's a statement that should be targeting the institutions where SOME students are being graduated as teachers without the proper qualifications and fired like loose canons into the schools to perpetuate their own short comings.

 

That situation has been going on for years, and what we see now is the results of that in many areas of Australia, including the State of Tasmania.

 

The rubbish that is printed such as "only two colleges" is just that, rubbish and fabrication, for what purpose I'm not sure.

 

It's such a shame that the media, as well as the uninformed and biased self interested perpetrators of garbage reporting are given such pathways to spread ludicrous misinformation the way they do and an even greater shame that there are those who are so gullible as to believe it as fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exageration  = exaggeration (I must remember I live in the Southern Hemisphere now) ....  Smiley Frustrated


@vicr3000 wrote:
LOL, dont make me laugh, in your dreams.

One thing I leant a long time ago is lots of laws but very little enforcement.
Spin a few 'sorry's' etc etc...

We used to have a saying, 'what are they gong to do, take your birthday away' ?


BTW, If that is hate speech, i hate to think what the Muslims chant is.

OK fair enough, but I don't think you have thought this through very carefully.

Governments change; the powers we give them don't; and once granted they  are far more likely to be expanded than rescinded.

 I'm not going to hijack this tthread to discuss it, but i will start a sepaate thread on the subject

Tas, do you think that some "older" teachers are becoming, or have become, stale?

 

Is it possible that some teachers still have the same expectation of students as they did 30 years ago and that sometimes they judge a child based on the parents and do the child no favours, and in fact, do the child damage because of that familial bias?

 

I'm on the side of the college system.  I'm a firm believer of teaching a child to think for themselves and teaching them a critical thinking process but based on what I read, hear and see I'm sure many prefer the indoctrination principle.

 

 

I think that part of the problem and not just in Australia might be down to the current popular forms of communication ........text messaging and social media sites and the **bleep**ised form of spelling writing and grammar that go with them

Oh really I can't use that word.

It is possible that older teachers have become "stale", whatever that may mean in reality.

 

 

By the same token, it's difficult to answer such a question without the proper research conducted, and even then, it would be hard to get the correct data;   it would result in subjective rather than objective conclusions I suspect.

 

I can't concur that teachers teach on the 'familial' platform these days no matter what their age group is now.  It might happen in the mind of the 'old' methods, but doubtful they would succeed in this century, try as they might, the young people are too savvy for that, as are their parents.

 

I'm on the side of the college system.  I'm a firm believer of teaching a child to think for themselves and teaching them a critical thinking process but based on what I read, hear and see I'm sure many prefer the indoctrination principle.

 

Indoctrination can only work if it's not bound by the tiresome back-traditional thinking where teaching is concerned.  It also depends on what kind of school is included in the discussion, but I won't go there, it's too sensitive and aggressive an issue for some people.

 

I agree with you entirely the children must learn a critical thinking process as long as it is tempered with rational and logical thought with good values all around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Glee, my niece who graduated as a teacher about 10 years ago, felt the "staleness" when first assigned to schools. 

 

 

The areas she went early in her career, were more book-reading-in-the-home domestic situations.  So not a lot of challenges were particularly noticed by parents in the schooling.

 

The long term 'mature" heads of individual primary school departments and their methods had been set years before and couldn't be deviated.  It appears the mature didn't participate in "refresher" courses to engage different students and their unknown abilities.

 

And yet, I recall a teacher/family friend about 30 years ago attending courses at UNE during school holidays to further her knowledge on teaching infants.  In fact, it was her enthusiasm that brought about 4 of my family members entering the profession. 

 

DEB