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@softail-joanie wrote:

how about this, we use Earth's own gravity, if we can direct it to move earth alittle futher from the sun, and bring the moon along with it, that's gonna be the tricky part though, if the rotation is off, it could make things worse.

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Brilliant idea softail, I like it and it sounds so much easier than what the warmists are trying to do, you know, change the planets weather patterns, adjust the climate and regulate the weather, all from their computer models sitting in their nice  armchairs.

Now if they wanted to help, really help, they would go to China and India and a lot of African countries and help them with a clean power source like nuclear, pull them out of poverty and clean the place up.

But sadly, that doesn't compute for these rent seekers.    

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

And yet, deniers have no explanation for the Pacific islands being inundated, the shrinking polar ice, and the diminishing glaciers.

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I find your use of the the word deniers offensive and insulting.

It has connotations and references of the holocaust deniers and is wrong on so many levels.

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@vicr3000 wrote:
We started a fire in NT that ended up probable 3 kms wide and burnt for at least 10 kms.
Thick black and White smoke for miles around.
And that wasnt the only one, by us or others.

It happens every year.

How much co2 do they produce ?

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Slow burns, fires and raging fires are a natural event, like volcano eruptions that spew millions of tonnes of ash and gas into the atomoshere and high into the ozone layer. 

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

I wonder how those in the northern hemisphere feel about global warming while they dig their cars out of unusually deep snow....lol.

 

It hasn't been referred to as "global warming" for the last 10 years......it's "Climate Change", and snowstorms in the North East are the result of changes impacting both the Jet Stream and the Gulf Stream.  Out west, it's dry as a bone.

 

The deniers will continue to deny until their basement is flooded by rising seawaters.........in fact, in Miami, high tides ofter result in flooding in the streets.

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You know when they stopped using the term "Global Warming"?? after Copenhagen and the complete fiasco that it was.

I remember Rudd coming back to Australia and he never uttered those words again, then....Ms Gillard knifed him and he and "Global Warming" was dead and buried.

I cannot  believe we are still having this discussion.  It has been settled ages ago.  The only qualified people who still dispute the facts have connections to the industries that are the worst polluters, and cackle of nutters.  Even Abbott does not say that climate change is bleep anymore .  The only discussion we should be having how best phase out fossil fuels, and how we will be getting our energy in the future.

Such arguments as grass fires and volcano eruptions are not valid.  The amount of CO2 released in such events is minuscule in comparison to what we put out every day.  For instance, when the Eyjafjallajökull erupted and closed European airways for few weeks, the CO2 in atmosphere actually dropped due to the cancelled flights.  That is something to think about.

If all the rent seekers and alarmist computer models ( mostly discredited) really want to save the planet, nuclear is the only answer, China and India need it but Africa needs it more.

All the weasel words from the Greens and Labor is just that. They would be happy if we were all sitting in the gutter, in the rain, in the dark and freezing like most of the worlds poor.

I won't be lectured by them or the hysterical left.

This is not a political issue but Rudd made it one and he died on the scrap heap of his ambitions.

Take the politics out of it, do the practical things that need to be done and fgs get on with it then shut up about it.

That is what the PM and the government of Australia is doing right now.

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@j*oono wrote:

No.  Some righties pretend they don't believe in climate change.  This will change with a new PM.

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Are we going to make this political, Joono?

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I thought the issue WAS political.

Actually it seems to be it is only political and alarmist when the "lefties" bring it up.

When the right bring it up, it is science lol.

If you actually look at the chart you posted, you would see that, according to it, we are due for an average global temperature of around 75 degrees.........you think the glaciers will keep advancing under those conditions?  Do you think mankind should make an attempt to ameliorate that temperature increase, or just keep pumping toxins into the atmosphere and oceans?