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on 06-03-2015 06:12 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:They should never have been made availiable for publishing. Unless this is Indonesia's "out"
Not sure what you mean by "out" but I agree they shouldln't have been made available for publishing.
Maybe Joko and Tones could get in a ring and fight it out. winner takes the prisoners.
By "out" I mean the reason to reprieve.
Not interested in the political BS
Mmm, could be. I keep reading that Joko's son is very much against his father's views about the death penalty.
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on 06-03-2015 06:13 PM
wouldn't "that" or "which" both be acceptable?
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on 06-03-2015 06:24 PM
The death penalty does not deter drug dealing, see all the prisoners in jail.
Wododo knows this, he just wants to do the “ strong man ” thing that is peculiar to some countries, but strong man does not equate to a decent human being or a good president.
If he really wanted to do the decent thing by the people he'd tackle corruption.
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on 06-03-2015 06:26 PM
@gleee58 wrote:wouldn't "that" or "which" both be acceptable?
I would think so, but I am waiting for the WA expert to adjudicate.
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on 06-03-2015 06:31 PM
@ladydeburg wrote:The death penalty does not deter drug dealing, see all the prisoners in jail.
Wododo knows this, he just wants to do the “ strong man ” thing that is peculiar to some countries, but strong man does not equate to a decent human being or a good president.
If he really wanted to do the decent thing by the people he'd tackle corruption.
I think you mean "saving face" common in Asian countries.
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on 06-03-2015 06:35 PM
Saving face, yes that too.
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06-03-2015 07:48 PM - edited 06-03-2015 07:50 PM
I boycotted Bali decades ago because I didn't like the place: pushy locals, the worst Australians the tourism industry could provide, pollution and garbage everywhere, awful, sticky weather, cheap souvenirs, and uninspiring vistas.
However following their tough, hard-line approach on drug traffickers, I am happy to spend my tourist dollars in Bali once again and have just booked my next holiday there. CAN'T WAIT!
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on 06-03-2015 08:07 PM
Interesting article re boycotting Bali
Seems the Bali people aren't fussed if we do.
http://www.traveller.com.au/balinese-welcome-boycott-by-boganaires--bogans-with-money-13pnfd
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on 06-03-2015 10:45 PM
I have never wanted to go there after many of my friends told me how awful it is. My tourist dollar will be spent in my country and an os trip every few years or so.
Even when this terrible thing is over, one way or another, Indonesia will never see a penny of mine.
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07-03-2015 01:14 AM - edited 07-03-2015 01:18 AM
Indonesia is probably locked into a position from which it feels it cannot withdraw.
If it doesn't proceed with the executions it will appear to show weakness in the face of perceived Australian threats.
The diplomatic efforts of Australia could have been handled with more sensitivity, though sensitivity is not really the strong point of our current prime minister; he's more the aggressive, bully-boy type of macho-man.
Indonesia is in a position where it cannot and does not want to appear to lose face. it's a matter of pride.
What a dismal lot is theirs who place appearance over substance.
Public macho-business. The lives of those two concerned is really as nothing to those Australian and Indonesian politicians, whose real concern lies with how they are pereceived by members of their respective electorates.
